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Relative knowledge pertains to the mind and not to the Self. It is

therefore illusory and not permanent. Take a scientist, for instance.

He formulates a theory that the Earth is round and goes on to prove it

on an incontrovertible basis. When he falls asleep the whole idea

vanishes; his mind is left a blank. What does it matter whether the

world remains round or flat when he is asleep? So you see the futility

of all such relative knowledge. One should go beyond relative

knowledge and abide in the Self. Real knowledge is such experience,

and not apprehension by the mind.

 

Ramana Maharshi

Talks with Ramana Maharshi

 

Oneness not only transcends relative knowledge, it dissipates the need

and the desire for it.

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

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>

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> Relative knowledge pertains to the mind and not to the Self. It is

> therefore illusory and not permanent. Take a scientist, for instance.

> He formulates a theory that the Earth is round and goes on to prove it

> on an incontrovertible basis. When he falls asleep the whole idea

> vanishes; his mind is left a blank. What does it matter whether the

> world remains round or flat when he is asleep? So you see the futility

> of all such relative knowledge. One should go beyond relative

> knowledge and abide in the Self. Real knowledge is such experience,

> and not apprehension by the mind.

>

> Ramana Maharshi

> Talks with Ramana Maharshi

>

> Oneness not only transcends relative knowledge, it dissipates the need

> and the desire for it.

>

 

Need and desire for it being relative nonsense...

 

Hmmm... so if I should desire relative knowledge,

does that mean there is a splotch of relative ignorance

on my not-a-soul, and being only " relative " not

amounting to much anyway?

 

Certainly it can't be absolute ignorance.

So what's the big deal anyway?

 

I mean, what's the harm in a little desire here

and there.... know what I mean? ;D

 

Bill

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Relative knowledge pertains to the mind and not to the Self. It

is

> > therefore illusory and not permanent. Take a scientist, for

instance.

> > He formulates a theory that the Earth is round and goes on to

prove it

> > on an incontrovertible basis. When he falls asleep the whole

idea

> > vanishes; his mind is left a blank. What does it matter whether

the

> > world remains round or flat when he is asleep? So you see the

futility

> > of all such relative knowledge. One should go beyond relative

> > knowledge and abide in the Self. Real knowledge is such

experience,

> > and not apprehension by the mind.

> >

> > Ramana Maharshi

> > Talks with Ramana Maharshi

> >

> > Oneness not only transcends relative knowledge, it dissipates

the need

> > and the desire for it.

> >

>

> Need and desire for it being relative nonsense...

>

> Hmmm... so if I should desire relative knowledge,

> does that mean there is a splotch of relative ignorance

> on my not-a-soul, and being only " relative " not

> amounting to much anyway?

>

> Certainly it can't be absolute ignorance.

> So what's the big deal anyway?

>

> I mean, what's the harm in a little desire here

> and there.... know what I mean? ;D

>

> Bill

 

one can desire whatever one want.....but it's not possible to make

somebody else responsible....for the more or less bad/good fruits...

 

Marc

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