Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Bill : <The notion that one's life will improve through the spiritual path is what I like to call the " New Age Fallacy " . > Patricia : It depends how we approach Spirituality, isn`t it? In the desire of better and more sensefelt well-being, it is a fallacy. In the sense of understanding our place in the cosmic order, not as takers but participants, we can list a very great number of wonders poured in and out on us. But, being a participant in the true sense of the word,is also about being grounded and present and incarnated in what is.. _________________________ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > Bill : <The notion that one's life will improve > through > the spiritual path is what I like to call the > " New Age Fallacy " . > The notion that one has a life is a deeper fallacy. > Patricia : > It depends how we approach Spirituality, isn`t it? There is no such thing as 'spirituality'.....and no us to approach it. > In the desire of better and more sensefelt well-being, > it is a fallacy. > In the sense of understanding our place in the cosmic > order, not as takers but participants, we can list a > very great number of wonders poured in and out on us. > But, being a participant in the true sense of the > word,is also about being grounded and present and > incarnated in what is.. What it is about............is a great mystery.......... even the greatest of sages..........haven't the foggiest. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > Bill : <The notion that one's life will improve > through > the spiritual path is what I like to call the > " New Age Fallacy " . > The notion that one has a life is a deeper fallacy. > Patricia : > It depends how we approach Spirituality, isn`t it? There is no such thing as 'spirituality'.....and no us to approach it. > In the desire of better and more sensefelt well-being, > it is a fallacy. > In the sense of understanding our place in the cosmic > order, not as takers but participants, we can list a > very great number of wonders poured in and out on us. > But, being a participant in the true sense of the > word,is also about being grounded and present and > incarnated in what is.. What it is about............is a great mystery.......... even the greatest of sages..........haven't the foggiest. toombaru I don`t get the total negation going on here. It seems to be an easy game.. it unfortunately happens often, one has to be very careful with any terms used, spending so much time reexplaining what one means, and not reaching far into communication because...negative misinterpretation used as a hobbie. ......and Life isn`t only the greatest mystery that even the foggiest sages can`t apprehend.... It can be approached..or you wouldn`t be here, Toombaru...you have approached it... negation of everything we know and don`t know, I understand.. when one is being dead earnest, honest and simple, there is a very real, nurturing constructive (and destructive of the false) current at work, that doesn`t belong to any in particular. There are no path, there is nothing, ....yes but... for you...only for you...there is a scent...there are subtle markings that hopefully your very eyes will see..There is a recognizable sweetness...and only your heart can tell you that it is indeed true.. Nobody else, not even Toombaru in the mist of insomnia.. Greetings and smile to you my friend, Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Spirituality is about getting in touch with oneself, the source of all existence or non-existence, through spirit...that is <> or Void! It is within this <>, that thoughts or concepts of spirits arise. Once there is that deep understanding that human beings are nothing but mere concepts, that is programmable objects, imagined characters in an object-oriented physical domain, like dream characters, one should make the best use of this concept through right understanding. Through spiritual journey, one develops the right attitude and becomes more mindful about one's thought process. Thoughts are very important because they are also actions in process. Right thoughts beget right actions. Negative thoughts are wasteful of one's mental energy. With right efforts, and patience, one develops love, better understanding and spiritual connection with one's self, and others. Peace! ~no-me~ OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Bill : <The notion that one's life will improve through the spiritual path is what I like to call the " New Age Fallacy " . > Patricia : It depends how we approach Spirituality, isn`t it? In the desire of better and more sensefelt well-being, it is a fallacy. In the sense of understanding our place in the cosmic order, not as takers but participants, we can list a very great number of wonders poured in and out on us. But, being a participant in the true sense of the word,is also about being grounded and present and incarnated in what is.. _________________________ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > Bill : <The notion that one's life will improve > > through > > the spiritual path is what I like to call the > > " New Age Fallacy " . > > > The notion that one has a life is a deeper fallacy. > > > > > Patricia : > > It depends how we approach Spirituality, isn`t it? > > > > > > There is no such thing as 'spirituality'.....and no us > to approach it. > > > > > In the desire of better and more sensefelt > well-being, > > it is a fallacy. > > In the sense of understanding our place in the > cosmic > > order, not as takers but participants, we can list a > > very great number of wonders poured in and out on > us. > > But, being a participant in the true sense of the > > word,is also about being grounded and present and > > incarnated in what is.. > > > What it is about............is a great > mystery.......... even the greatest of > sages..........haven't > the foggiest. > > > toombaru > > I don`t get the total negation going on here. It seems > to be an easy game.. > it unfortunately happens often, one has to be very > careful with any terms used, spending so much time > reexplaining what one means, and not reaching far into > communication because...negative misinterpretation > used as a hobbie. > .....and Life isn`t only the greatest mystery that > even the foggiest sages can`t apprehend.... > It can be approached..or you wouldn`t be here, > Toombaru...you have approached it... > negation of everything we know and don`t know, I > understand.. when one is being dead earnest, honest > and simple, there is a very real, nurturing > constructive (and destructive of the false) current at > work, that doesn`t belong to any in particular. > There are no path, there is nothing, ....yes but... > for you...only for you...there is a scent...there are > subtle markings that hopefully your very eyes will > see..There is a recognizable sweetness...and only your > heart can tell you that it is indeed true.. > Nobody else, not even Toombaru in the mist of > insomnia.. > Greetings and smile to you my friend, > Patricia > ...............and scones...........rained softy from the sky............ toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Patricia wrote: I don`t get the total negation going on here. It seems to be an easy game.. ~~~~~~~~ That's it exactly. Sometimes others will pick at words, bothering not for the meaning contained therein, and deigning not to consider that words are used quite differently not only from writer to writer, but even from context to context by the same writer. Bill > > > Bill : <The notion that one's life will improve > > through > > the spiritual path is what I like to call the > > " New Age Fallacy " . > > > The notion that one has a life is a deeper fallacy. > > > > > Patricia : > > It depends how we approach Spirituality, isn`t it? > > > > > > There is no such thing as 'spirituality'.....and no us > to approach it. > > > > > In the desire of better and more sensefelt > well-being, > > it is a fallacy. > > In the sense of understanding our place in the > cosmic > > order, not as takers but participants, we can list a > > very great number of wonders poured in and out on > us. > > But, being a participant in the true sense of the > > word,is also about being grounded and present and > > incarnated in what is.. > > > What it is about............is a great > mystery.......... even the greatest of > sages..........haven't > the foggiest. > > > toombaru > > I don`t get the total negation going on here. It seems > to be an easy game.. > it unfortunately happens often, one has to be very > careful with any terms used, spending so much time > reexplaining what one means, and not reaching far into > communication because...negative misinterpretation > used as a hobbie. > .....and Life isn`t only the greatest mystery that > even the foggiest sages can`t apprehend.... > It can be approached..or you wouldn`t be here, > Toombaru...you have approached it... > negation of everything we know and don`t know, I > understand.. when one is being dead earnest, honest > and simple, there is a very real, nurturing > constructive (and destructive of the false) current at > work, that doesn`t belong to any in particular. > There are no path, there is nothing, ....yes but... > for you...only for you...there is a scent...there are > subtle markings that hopefully your very eyes will > see..There is a recognizable sweetness...and only your > heart can tell you that it is indeed true.. > Nobody else, not even Toombaru in the mist of > insomnia.. > Greetings and smile to you my friend, > Patricia ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > change your subscription, sign in with your ID > and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " > for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 > ....yes but... > for you...only for you...there is a scent...there are > subtle markings that hopefully your very eyes will > see..There is a recognizable sweetness...and only your > heart can tell you that it is indeed true.. the alchemy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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