Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : Nisargadatta , bounthanom munxayaphom <nomemxp wrote: > > " nothing is really happening... " > ..that is all. nothing's ever happened! > > But those who don't have deep understanding about 'nothingness' can be so fooled by their senses. Their totality is the fooling. > > Maharaj kept saying, " Understanding is all you need!! Once there is an understanding, you can do anything!! " If there were a you to do it. > > I still enjoy dreaming since I've got a lot more control in dreaming than the waking stage. You enjoy being.....or at least believing that you are being......That is the problem. > > I think that the only thing that wakes me up from dreaming or sleeping is hunger...that is consciousness! One should always disregard everything downstream from the declaration " I think... " toombaru ...splitting hairs in four...is about to become your new nickname, Toomb. What about learning to read in between lines, What about digesting and deepening, Poeple writing here are very real, (and very false I hear you..) Get to know them and understand where they are,(they don`t exist, I hear you...) Hold your hand, find the answer to their question, find the thread of their comments, work a little with us,,,not always deniing and projecting the opposite.. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , bounthanom > munxayaphom <nomemxp@> > wrote: > > > > " nothing is really happening... " > > ..that is all. nothing's ever happened! > > > > But those who don't have deep understanding about > 'nothingness' can be so fooled by > their senses. > > > Their totality is the fooling. > > > > > > Maharaj kept saying, " Understanding is all you > need!! Once there is an understanding, > you can do anything!! " > > > If there were a you to do it. > > > > > > I still enjoy dreaming since I've got a lot more > control in dreaming than the waking > stage. > > > > You enjoy being.....or at least believing that you are > being......That is the problem. > > > > > > I think that the only thing that wakes me up from > dreaming or sleeping is hunger...that > is consciousness! > > > One should always disregard everything downstream from > the declaration " I think... " > > > > toombaru > > ..splitting hairs in four...is about to become your > new nickname, Toomb. > What about learning to read in between lines, > What about digesting and deepening, > Poeple writing here are very real, (and very false I > hear you..) > Get to know them and understand where they are,(they > don`t exist, I hear you...) > Hold your hand, find the answer to their question, > find the thread of their comments, work a little with > us,,,not always deniing and projecting the opposite.. > Patricia > > > Did you think that this would be easy? It is your complete world.....your life.......your totality that you jeopardize......by playing in these fields. Here there are land mines. Everyone here has paid the price of admission. This is seldom a painless process. The ego will pull up tricks that can even amaze its self. It is a million years old.......and has learned how to survive. This is the kitchen.....where things get killed and cooked. Pacifiers are will not fill the stomaches of these few brave souls that have traveled to the very edge of what is. No more story time.............no more bed time stories. Its time. Its time to take your medicine. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , bounthanom > munxayaphom <nomemxp@> > wrote: > > > > " nothing is really happening... " > > ..that is all. nothing's ever happened! > > > > But those who don't have deep understanding about > 'nothingness' can be so fooled by > their senses. > > > Their totality is the fooling. > > > > > > Maharaj kept saying, " Understanding is all you > need!! Once there is an understanding, > you can do anything!! " > > > If there were a you to do it. > > > > > > I still enjoy dreaming since I've got a lot more > control in dreaming than the waking > stage. > > > > You enjoy being.....or at least believing that you are > being......That is the problem. > > > > > > I think that the only thing that wakes me up from > dreaming or sleeping is hunger...that > is consciousness! > > > One should always disregard everything downstream from > the declaration " I think... " > > > > toombaru > > ..splitting hairs in four...is about to become your > new nickname, Toomb. > What about learning to read in between lines, > What about digesting and deepening, > Poeple writing here are very real, (and very false I > hear you..) > Get to know them and understand where they are,(they > don`t exist, I hear you...) > Hold your hand, find the answer to their question, > find the thread of their comments, work a little with > us,,,not always deniing and projecting the opposite.. > Patricia > > > Did you think that this would be easy? It is your complete world.....your life.......your totality that you jeopardize......by playing in these fields. Here there are land mines. Everyone here has paid the price of admission. This is seldom a painless process. The ego will pull up tricks that can even amaze its self. It is a million years old.......and has learned how to survive. This is the kitchen.....where things get killed and cooked. Pacifiers are will not fill the stomaches of these few brave souls that have traveled to the very edge of what is. No more story time.............no more bed time stories. Its time. Its time to take your medicine. toombaru You think I have been waiting until today to take my medecine? (sorry I forgot that you don`t think) and that I am expecting for something pleasant and easy ?? LOL Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , bounthanom > > munxayaphom <nomemxp@> > > wrote: > > > > > > " nothing is really happening... " > > > ..that is all. nothing's ever happened! > > > > > > But those who don't have deep understanding > about > > 'nothingness' can be so fooled by > > their senses. > > > > > > Their totality is the fooling. > > > > > > > > > > Maharaj kept saying, " Understanding is all you > > need!! Once there is an understanding, > > you can do anything!! " > > > > > > If there were a you to do it. > > > > > > > > > > I still enjoy dreaming since I've got a lot more > > control in dreaming than the waking > > stage. > > > > > > > > You enjoy being.....or at least believing that you > are > > being......That is the problem. > > > > > > > > > > I think that the only thing that wakes me up > from > > dreaming or sleeping is hunger...that > > is consciousness! > > > > > > One should always disregard everything downstream > from > > the declaration " I think... " > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > ..splitting hairs in four...is about to become your > > new nickname, Toomb. > > What about learning to read in between lines, > > What about digesting and deepening, > > Poeple writing here are very real, (and very false I > > hear you..) > > Get to know them and understand where they are,(they > > don`t exist, I hear you...) > > Hold your hand, find the answer to their question, > > find the thread of their comments, work a little > with > > us,,,not always deniing and projecting the > opposite.. > > Patricia > > > > > Did you think that this would be easy? > > It is your complete world.....your life.......your > totality that you jeopardize......by playing in > these fields. > > Here there are land mines. > > Everyone here has paid the price of admission. > > This is seldom a painless process. > > The ego will pull up tricks that can even amaze its > self. > > It is a million years old.......and has learned how to > survive. > > This is the kitchen.....where things get killed and > cooked. > > Pacifiers are will not fill the stomaches of these few > brave souls that have traveled to the > very edge of what is. > > No more story time.............no more bed time > stories. > > Its time. > > > > > Its time to take your medicine. > > > > toombaru > > You think I have been waiting until today to take my > medicine? (sorry I forgot that you don`t think) > and that I am expecting for something pleasant and > easy ?? > LOL > Patricia > Patricia, I have no idea if you even exist outside of this dream...I have no idea what you expect........I suspect that you do not have a reality separate from my own......and that we are searching for the same thing. Something that appears to come from a you......or no-me....or an anna...or ts.....or the 'others'...........stimulates something here........It feels more and more like the questions and ideas bubble up from within....swirl together and negate everything I thought that I knew............and more and more.....the known world looses its opacity. I have nothing to offer you except scones........but I do know that your apparent presence in this life has enriched it....... stretched it.......and refreshed it. And I am grateful for that........ It is late here in Cambria.......The rains are coming....There is a fire in the fireplace.......and this house is warm. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Did you think that this would be easy? > > It is your complete world.....your life.......your > totality that you jeopardize......by playing in > these fields. > > Here there are land mines. > > Everyone here has paid the price of admission. > > This is seldom a painless process. > > The ego will pull up tricks that can even amaze its > self. > > It is a million years old.......and has learned how to > survive. > > This is the kitchen.....where things get killed and > cooked. > > Pacifiers are will not fill the stomaches of these few > brave souls that have traveled to the > very edge of what is. > > No more story time.............no more bed time > stories. > > Its time. > > > > > Its time to take your medicine. > > > > toombaru > > You think I have been waiting until today to take my > medicine? (sorry I forgot that you don`t think) > and that I am expecting for something pleasant and > easy ?? > LOL > Patricia > Patricia, I have no idea if you even exist outside of this dream...I have no idea what you expect........I suspect that you do not have a reality separate from my own......and that we are searching for the same thing. Something that appears to come from a you......or no-me....or an anna...or ts.....or the 'others'...........stimulates something here........It feels more and more like the questions and ideas bubble up from within....swirl together and negate everything I thought that I knew............and more and more.....the known world looses its opacity. I have nothing to offer you except scones........but I do know that your apparent presence in this life has enriched it....... stretched it.......and refreshed it. And I am grateful for that........ It is late here in Cambria.......The rains are coming....There is a fire in the fireplace.......and this house is warm. toombaru (Well well, he has ears after all..) Same here Toomb.. it doesn`t mean that you can play cat and I won`t behave like a mouse, I don`t play when extracting something very real to me, (and yet temporal, I know that). I think Bill described the importance of the heart and its secret works of reuniting the outer with the inner, very well. And since those are my most important tools, I intend to share them, use them..and meet all of You w/ them. ........Even if I know their temporality..... Giving my best here..and receiving very much for it.. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: >> > Giving my best here..and receiving very much for it.. > Patricia > > > ********* I'd inspect that " giving my best " bullshit if I was you. Who do you think you're kidding, your're out for yourself. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 In a message dated 2/28/2006 12:35:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:25:04 +0100 (CET) OConnor Patricia <gdtige Re: Splitting hair in 4 (Well well, he has ears after all..) Same here Toomb.. it doesn`t mean that you can play cat and I won`t behave like a mouse, I don`t play when extracting something very real to me, (and yet temporal, I know that). I think Bill described the importance of the heart and its secret works of reuniting the outer with the inner, very well. And since those are my most important tools, I intend to share them, use them..and meet all of You w/ them. ........Even if I know their temporality..... Giving my best here..and receiving very much for it.. Patricia Ahh, the heart........The heart is often missing here in this place, and this has always been known. That's why I have valued your presence here and Ana's from the beginning. But there is a force here that bleeds one dry, that would make the lover into a hunter and turn the wonder of creation into a kitchen where things are killed and cooked. A place where love, joy and peace is denied in the name of ultimate love, joy and peace. This can never be. Even a child knows this. Thank you, dear, for reminding this child of his heritage and his destiny. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/28/2006 12:35:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:25:04 +0100 (CET) > OConnor Patricia <gdtige > Re: Splitting hair in 4 > > > > (Well well, he has ears after all..) > > Same here Toomb.. > it doesn`t mean that you can play cat and I won`t > behave like a mouse, I don`t play when extracting > something very real to me, (and yet temporal, I know > that). I think Bill described the importance of the > heart and its secret works of reuniting the outer with > the inner, very well. And since those are my most > important tools, I intend to share them, use them..and > meet all of You w/ them. > .......Even if I know their temporality..... > Giving my best here..and receiving very much for it.. > Patricia > > > Ahh, the heart........The heart is often missing here in this place, and > this has always been known. That's why I have valued your presence here and > Ana's from the beginning. But there is a force here that bleeds one dry, that > would make the lover into a hunter and turn the wonder of creation into a > kitchen where things are killed and cooked. A place where love, joy and peace is > denied in the name of ultimate love, joy and peace. This can never be. Even a > child knows this. > > Thank you, dear, for reminding this child of his heritage and his destiny. > > Phil > > > Hi Phil, do you believe that this your childish words would lead you to some deeper peace and love....?.... i don't think so.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/28/2006 12:35:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:25:04 +0100 (CET) > > OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > > Re: Splitting hair in 4 > > > > > > > > (Well well, he has ears after all..) > > > > Same here Toomb.. > > it doesn`t mean that you can play cat and I won`t > > behave like a mouse, I don`t play when extracting > > something very real to me, (and yet temporal, I know > > that). I think Bill described the importance of the > > heart and its secret works of reuniting the outer with > > the inner, very well. And since those are my most > > important tools, I intend to share them, use them..and > > meet all of You w/ them. > > .......Even if I know their temporality..... > > Giving my best here..and receiving very much for it.. > > Patricia > > > > > > Ahh, the heart........The heart is often missing here in this > place, and > > this has always been known. That's why I have valued your presence > here and > > Ana's from the beginning. But there is a force here that bleeds one > dry, that > > would make the lover into a hunter and turn the wonder of creation > into a > > kitchen where things are killed and cooked. A place where love, joy > and peace is > > denied in the name of ultimate love, joy and peace. This can never > be. Even a > > child knows this. > > > > Thank you, dear, for reminding this child of his heritage and his > destiny. > > > > Phil > > > > > > > Hi Phil, > > do you believe that this your childish words would lead you to some > deeper peace and love....?.... > > i don't think so.... > > Marc Ps: maybe there is a Kindergarten section missing in here.... for the ones who want to play with " other " sweeties > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 In a message dated 3/1/2006 3:27:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:29:37 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: Splitting hair in 4 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/28/2006 12:35:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:25:04 +0100 (CET) > OConnor Patricia <gdtige > Re: Splitting hair in 4 > > > > (Well well, he has ears after all..) > > Same here Toomb.. > it doesn`t mean that you can play cat and I won`t > behave like a mouse, I don`t play when extracting > something very real to me, (and yet temporal, I know > that). I think Bill described the importance of the > heart and its secret works of reuniting the outer with > the inner, very well. And since those are my most > important tools, I intend to share them, use them..and > meet all of You w/ them. > .......Even if I know their temporality..... > Giving my best here..and receiving very much for it.. > Patricia > > > Ahh, the heart........The heart is often missing here in this place, and > this has always been known. That's why I have valued your presence here and > Ana's from the beginning. But there is a force here that bleeds one dry, that > would make the lover into a hunter and turn the wonder of creation into a > kitchen where things are killed and cooked. A place where love, joy and peace is > denied in the name of ultimate love, joy and peace. This can never be. Even a > child knows this. > > Thank you, dear, for reminding this child of his heritage and his destiny. > > Phil > > > Hi Phil, do you believe that this your childish words would lead you to some deeper peace and love....?.... i don't think so.... Marc It did indeed! That realization gave me a new lightness and freedom. I had become stuck in the mire for a time. Strangely, the end result is not the expression of gentle words but rather an absolute intolerance for the egoic nonsense that goes on here. Is that ego? Of course! But it hides behind nothing, and that is the difference. There's no judgment and I really do understand it and it's purpose, but I notice that I go through cycles where I desperately need to hear the truth, even if it's me who is speaking it. Love is not what most think it is at all. It is not all gentleness and sweetness. It is truth. The sword of truth is love, and contained within it's violence is a remarkable peace borne of freedom as well. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:35:19 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: Splitting hair in 4 In a message dated 3/1/2006 3:27:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: > Hi Phil, > > do you believe that this your childish words would lead you to some > deeper peace and love....?.... > > i don't think so.... > > Marc Ps: maybe there is a Kindergarten section missing in here.... for the ones who want to play with " other " sweeties > Your projections are showing, Marc. Tell me you're not tired of playing patty cake with God. I'll tell you this, God's waiting for you to have the courage to look him in the eye, and He's going to ignore you until you do. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:35:19 -0000 > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 > Re: Splitting hair in 4 > > > > > In a message dated 3/1/2006 3:27:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > > Hi Phil, > > > > do you believe that this your childish words would lead you to some > > deeper peace and love....?.... > > > > i don't think so.... > > > > Marc > > > Ps: maybe there is a Kindergarten section missing in here.... > for the ones who want to play with " other " sweeties > > > > > > > Your projections are showing, Marc. > Tell me you're not tired of playing patty cake with God. I'll tell you this, > God's waiting for you to have the courage to look him in the eye, and He's > going to ignore you until you do. > > Phil > > Hi Phil, so " God is waiting fro me " ...... i have no fear Phil.....God can take whole of me...... Phil....God don't ignore anybody who give up whole him/herself......for Oneness and peace don't be nervous Phil......everything will be fine....one day.... Marc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/1/2006 3:27:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:29:37 -0000 > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 > Re: Splitting hair in 4 > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/28/2006 12:35:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:25:04 +0100 (CET) > > OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > > Re: Splitting hair in 4 > > > > > > > > (Well well, he has ears after all..) > > > > Same here Toomb.. > > it doesn`t mean that you can play cat and I won`t > > behave like a mouse, I don`t play when extracting > > something very real to me, (and yet temporal, I know > > that). I think Bill described the importance of the > > heart and its secret works of reuniting the outer with > > the inner, very well. And since those are my most > > important tools, I intend to share them, use them..and > > meet all of You w/ them. > > .......Even if I know their temporality..... > > Giving my best here..and receiving very much for it.. > > Patricia > > > > > > Ahh, the heart........The heart is often missing here in this > place, and > > this has always been known. That's why I have valued your presence > here and > > Ana's from the beginning. But there is a force here that bleeds one > dry, that > > would make the lover into a hunter and turn the wonder of creation > into a > > kitchen where things are killed and cooked. A place where love, joy > and peace is > > denied in the name of ultimate love, joy and peace. This can never > be. Even a > > child knows this. > > > > Thank you, dear, for reminding this child of his heritage and his > destiny. > > > > Phil > > > > > > > Hi Phil, > > do you believe that this your childish words would lead you to some > deeper peace and love....?.... > > i don't think so.... > > Marc > > > > It did indeed! That realization gave me a new lightness and freedom. I had > become stuck in the mire for a time. Strangely, the end result is not the > expression of gentle words but rather an absolute intolerance for the egoic > nonsense that goes on here. Is that ego? Of course! But it hides behind nothing, > and that is the difference. There's no judgment and I really do understand it > and it's purpose, but I notice that I go through cycles where I desperately > need to hear the truth, even if it's me who is speaking it. > > Love is not what most think it is at all. It is not all gentleness and > sweetness. It is truth. The sword of truth is love, and contained within it's > violence is a remarkable peace borne of freedom as well. > > Phil > > > >....so you are the great " enlightened " in here....didn't know i'm happy for you......thanks to be sincere.....telling whats realy going on within you......hiding behind " nothing " thats nice.......there is, in reality realy nothing.....to hide behind we all are in front of formless and changless reality....playing around like fools.......more or less disciplinated....more or less serious.....more or less egoistic.....more or less childish you write: " Strangely, the end result is not the > expression of gentle words but rather an absolute intolerance for the egoic > nonsense that goes on here. " ....it seem that everybody accuse everybody ...in here....to produce " egoic " nonsense.... you write " The sword of truth is love " .... yes....indeed..... this your mentionned love is the source of an endless peace.... enjoy the peace within you..... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 In a message dated 3/2/2006 1:54:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:27:07 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: Splitting hair in 4 > It did indeed! That realization gave me a new lightness and freedom. I had > become stuck in the mire for a time. Strangely, the end result is not the > expression of gentle words but rather an absolute intolerance for the egoic > nonsense that goes on here. Is that ego? Of course! But it hides behind nothing, > and that is the difference. There's no judgment and I really do understand it > and it's purpose, but I notice that I go through cycles where I desperately > need to hear the truth, even if it's me who is speaking it. > > Love is not what most think it is at all. It is not all gentleness and > sweetness. It is truth. The sword of truth is love, and contained within it's > violence is a remarkable peace borne of freedom as well. > > Phil > > > >....so you are the great " enlightened " in here....didn't know i'm happy for you Only ego can twist the words of another with the intention of belittling. It would be far more productive to inquire as to why this seemingly needs to be done. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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