Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Posted February 28, 2006 Nisargadatta , annaruiz wrote: > > > There are a lot in this message, but one thing that comes to my sense is: > > > > " > My biggest sense of effort had been to change the > >> world and reach to poeple. " > > > > The outside world is immense, and it cannot be changed! It can only > > happen. However, the moment the world within is realized, the outter > > world will follow. > > > > Good luck with reaching to others with this effort-less-ness. Make sure > > that one knows who those 'others' are! > > > > Changing the outside world is like trying to reshape an ornament made of > > gold. In the end, that ornament has to be melt down to re-shape a new > > one. > > > > ~no-me~ > > > > billrishel <illusyn wrote: > > > Thank-you Bill and Phil, all was helpful, in deepening > >> an age long sensibilitie about effortlessness. > >> After reading the Krishnamurti post I was thinking > >> that the kind of effortlesness he describes : it is so > >> revolutionary, you cannot talk about that to just > >> anybody. > >> He basically denies the sense of progress, the > >> " getting better " of our psychologicall reality. > >> It isn`t about getting better at all. > >> It is about stopping one`s own expension...... > >> making space....... > >> and as there is no empty space, > >> a sense of otherness starts prevailing. > >> My biggest sense of effort had been to change the > >> world and reach to poeple. I`ve changed on that > >> subject. the deep alchemy that occurs when one is > >> truly letting go with attention, without expectations > >> of change, is bound to diffuse itself. > >> I feel I am walking on a razor`s blade sometimes. > >> Greetings, > >> Patricia > > > > You know Patricia, you're the champ here in my view. > > Because you put your heart on the line like none other > > here. Deep Bow. > > > > Re: > >> the deep alchemy that occurs when one is > >> truly letting go with attention, without expectations > >> of change, is bound to diffuse itself. > > I was sensing that " deep alchemy " in what you > > had written earlier. It doesn't matter what one's > > so-called " mind " is thinking once that alchemy kicks > > in. > > > > Re: > >> I feel I am walking on a razor`s blade sometimes. > > > > Sharp like a razor's edge is the path, > > The sages say, difficult to traverse. > > > > --- Death Instructing Nachiketa in the > > Katha (Word) Upanishad > > > > Re: > >> [Krishnamurti] basically denies the sense of progress, the > >> " getting better " of our psychologicall reality. > > > > That is key, in my view. > > > > The notion that one's life will improve through > > the spiritual path is what I like to call the > > " New Age Fallacy " . > > > > Nisargadatta emphasizes honesty, as when he says: > > > > M: Whatever name you give it: will, or steady purpose, or > > onepointedness of the mind, you come back to earnestness, > > sincerity, honesty. When you are in dead earnest, you > > bend every incident, every second of your life to your > > purpose. You do not waste time and energy on other > > things. You are totally dedicated, call it will, or love, > > or plain honesty. > > > > Just plain honesty. > > If there is complete honesty there cannot be any concern > > about outcome, yes? > > > > > > Bill > > > > I'm replying here to Bill, as I'm probably off on thread, > > Honesty is just plain THIS, and ONLY THIS. > > and a little Moody Blues from Days of Future Passed: > > Morning Glory > > Cold-hearted orb that rules the night > Removes the colours from our sight, > Red is grey and yellow white > But we decide which is right > And which is an illusion. > Pinprick holes in a colourless sky > Let insipid figures of light pass by. > The mighty light of ten thousand suns > Challenges infinity, and is soon gone. > > Night-time: to some, a brief interlude, > To others the fear of solitude. > Brave Helios, wake up your steeds! > Brings the warmth the countryside needs. > > > Only Love raises the Vibration, > Ana Nice to read that bit of Moody Blues. Thanks. Honest, THIS, Love... indistinct, shining bright this moment's light Bill Quote
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