Where is this within ((((Is There an Inside, an Outside?

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > > > writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > > The whole world is within.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > L.E: Where is this ' " within' " you write about? When

there is an

> > > > inside, is

> > > > > > there also an outside? Where is this outside that is not " the

> > > > whole world? "

> > > > > > Where reside those who do not agree, are they inside or

outside?

> > > > > > Word games. Just sounds in the air. Hoots, hollars and

whistles.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Larry Epston

> > > >

> > > > Very good question Larry.

> > > >

> > > > Did you ever get an answer?

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This concept cannot be approached directly.

> > >

> > > Any intellectualization occurs from within ....and arises

> > from....the milieu of the identified

> > > entity....the illusion of self.....the occlusion,

> > >

> > > The self looks out and sees what appears to be a world.....when in

> > fact the perceived

> > > 'world' is merely the content of consciousness.

> > >

> > > The 'self' is also merely the content of consciousness.......looking

> > for consciousness itself.

> > >

> > > If one thinks of his dream last night......all of those

> > people......mountains....and animals

> > > appeared to be 'outside' of the dream hero.......and in a

> > way.....they were.

> > >

> > >

> > > .........but the whole drama swirls within the thought

> > stream.........it is all electro-chemical

> > > mnemonics...........nothing is really happening.

> > >

> > > 'You' can never find your self within your own dream.....and

> > yet........everything in your

> > > dream is you.

> > >

> > >

> > > Concepts cannot capture this............Understanding can.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> >

> > I'm afraid that I stop rather early on with:

> >

> > " Any intellectualization occurs from within ....and arises

> > from....the milieu of the identified entity....the illusion of

> > self.....the occlusion... "

> >

> > What " within " ?

> >

> > When inner/outer are indistinct there is no sense of

> > " within " .

> >

> > When there was once a " sense of within " and later no

> > such " sense " indicates that the former " sense of within "

> > was in reality a misapprehension.

> >

> >

> > Bill

> >

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> Yes.....all conceptual perceptions are wrong.

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>

> toombaru

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" conceptual perceptions " is an interesting term.

 

If I understand you it means a " structuring " of

perception. For example, if the person standing

before me is a salesman and I am thinking " this is

a salesman " as I observe/listen, then my perception

is structured by the concept " salesman " .

 

Bill