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It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to do. Now what do I mean by

that? Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want

to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as reduce stress, think it's a

'holy thing' to do, will make me enlightened,

etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction to, what ALREADY is the

case. In other words, *I " and *it* are not-two.

There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an imagined splitting/differentiation

takes places which posits the believed in

assumption that there is a *me* separate from and over and again an *other* or

an *it* that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or

should accept in order to eliminate the stress, become enlightened, etc. This

effort or battle is about as effective as

yelling at an echo to go away!

 

To put it another way, when resistance is no more, when contraction melts,

so-called *acceptance* is, but then there is no

*accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply openness or space.

 

Michael

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Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote:

>

>

>

> It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to do. Now what do I mean by

that?

Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want

> to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as reduce stress, think it's a

'holy thing'

to do, will make me enlightened,

> etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction to, what ALREADY is the

case. In

other words, *I " and *it* are not-two.

> There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an imagined

splitting/differentiation takes

places which posits the believed in

> assumption that there is a *me* separate from and over and again an *other* or

an *it*

that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or

> should accept in order to eliminate the stress, become enlightened, etc. This

effort or

battle is about as effective as

> yelling at an echo to go away!

>

> To put it another way, when resistance is no more, when contraction melts,

so-called

*acceptance* is, but then there is no

> *accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply openness or space.

>

> Michael

>

 

 

 

Acceptance is violence.

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote:

>

>

>

>>

> To put it another way, when resistance is no more, when contraction

melts, so-called *acceptance* is, but then there is no

> *accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply openness or space.

>

> Michael

 

 

Hi Michael,

 

thanks....nice words

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote:

>

>

>

> It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to do. Now what do I

mean by that? Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want

> to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as reduce stress,

think it's a 'holy thing' to do, will make me enlightened,

> etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction to, what ALREADY

is the case. In other words, *I " and *it* are not-two.

> There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an imagined

splitting/differentiation takes places which posits the believed in

> assumption that there is a *me* separate from and over and again an

*other* or an *it* that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or

> should accept in order to eliminate the stress, become enlightened,

etc. This effort or battle is about as effective as

> yelling at an echo to go away!

>

> To put it another way, when resistance is no more, when contraction

melts, so-called *acceptance* is, but then there is no

> *accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply openness or space.

>

> Michael

>

 

Yes, acceptance isn't *done*.

 

Acceptance is unconditional surrender to What Is.

 

And yes, acceptance means no-resistance.

 

When immersion in the Now is complete

acceptance is not an issue, cannot be

an issue.

 

 

Bill

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In a message dated 2/28/2006 9:07:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:05:43 -0800

" Adamson " <adamson

Another view of acceptance

 

 

 

It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to do. Now what do I mean by

that? Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want

to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as reduce stress, think it's

a 'holy thing' to do, will make me enlightened,

etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction to, what ALREADY is the

case. In other words, *I " and *it* are not-two.

There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an imagined

splitting/differentiation takes places which posits the believed in

assumption that there is a *me* separate from and over and again an *other*

or an *it* that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or

should accept in order to eliminate the stress, become enlightened, etc.

This effort or battle is about as effective as

yelling at an echo to go away!

 

To put it another way, when resistance is no more, when contraction melts,

so-called *acceptance* is, but then there is no

*accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply openness or space.

 

Michael

 

 

 

 

An interesting perspective and I agree. Basically, you're making the

argument that there is no volitional 'doer' present to change what is, and even

if

there were, what is, is one's own creation.

 

In another context, I like to say that acceptance is not a choice because it

sets up a split in the mind. Whatever is not being accepted, is not being

accepted because it is found unacceptable. To overlay a desire to accept onto

that dynamic is only to create conflict, and does not cause acceptance to

occur. The mind must change it's conclusion that something is unacceptable, and

this requires an evolution of awareness.

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 2/28/2006 9:07:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:05:55 -0000

" toombaru2006 " <lastrain

Re: Another view of acceptance

 

Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote:

>

>

>

> It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to do. Now what do I mean

by that?

Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want

> to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as reduce stress, think

it's a 'holy thing'

to do, will make me enlightened,

> etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction to, what ALREADY is

the case. In

other words, *I " and *it* are not-two.

> There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an imagined

splitting/differentiation takes

places which posits the believed in

> assumption that there is a *me* separate from and over and again an

*other* or an *it*

that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or

> should accept in order to eliminate the stress, become enlightened, etc.

This effort or

battle is about as effective as

> yelling at an echo to go away!

>

> To put it another way, when resistance is no more, when contraction melts,

so-called

*acceptance* is, but then there is no

> *accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply openness or space.

>

> Michael

>

 

 

 

Acceptance is violence.

 

 

toombaru

 

 

 

PhilA: What are you doing?

PhilB: I'm gonna ask Toom a question.

PhilA: What for?

PhilB: I wanna know what he means by that.

PhilA: And you expect a reasonable answer?

PhilB: Well.......Okay, let's just say I'm curious.

PhilA: Curiosity killed the cat, ya know.

PhilB: I'm okay. He sells scones in a shop in northern California. It's not

like he's a hit man or sumthin.

PhilA: Okay, but don't say I didn't warn ya.

PhilB: Deal.......Hey Toom!.......What the hell?

 

PhilA/B

 

 

 

 

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--- ADHHUB a écrit :

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/28/2006 9:07:22 PM Pacific

Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:05:55 -0000

" toombaru2006 " <lastrain

Re: Another view of acceptance

 

Nisargadatta , " Adamson "

<adamson wrote:

>

>

>

> It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to

do. Now what do I mean

by that?

Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want

> to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as

reduce stress, think

it's a 'holy thing'

to do, will make me enlightened,

> etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction

to, what ALREADY is

the case. In

other words, *I " and *it* are not-two.

> There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an

imagined

splitting/differentiation takes

places which posits the believed in

> assumption that there is a *me* separate from and

over and again an

*other* or an *it*

that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or

> should accept in order to eliminate the stress,

become enlightened, etc.

This effort or

battle is about as effective as

> yelling at an echo to go away!

>

> To put it another way, when resistance is no more,

when contraction melts,

so-called

*acceptance* is, but then there is no

> *accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply

openness or space.

>

> Michael

>

 

 

 

Acceptance is violence.

 

 

toombaru

 

 

 

PhilA: What are you doing?

PhilB: I'm gonna ask Toom a question.

PhilA: What for?

PhilB: I wanna know what he means by that.

PhilA: And you expect a reasonable answer?

PhilB: Well.......Okay, let's just say I'm curious.

PhilA: Curiosity killed the cat, ya know.

PhilB: I'm okay. He sells scones in a shop in northern

California. It's not

like he's a hit man or sumthin.

PhilA: Okay, but don't say I didn't warn ya.

PhilB: Deal.......Hey Toom!.......What the hell?

 

PhilA/B

 

You got it all wrong Phil, he doesn`t sell scones he

offers them. Be careful..very careful...

Hey, I wonder if Phil A is as hungry as Phil B??

Patricia

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/2/2006 11:52:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Fri, 3 Mar 2006 00:16:42 +0100 (CET)

OConnor Patricia <gdtige

Re: Another view of acceptance

 

 

--- ADHHUB a écrit :

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/28/2006 9:07:22 PM Pacific

Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:05:55 -0000

" toombaru2006 " <lastrain

Re: Another view of acceptance

 

Nisargadatta , " Adamson "

<adamson wrote:

>

>

>

> It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to

do. Now what do I mean

by that?

Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want

> to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as

reduce stress, think

it's a 'holy thing'

to do, will make me enlightened,

> etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction

to, what ALREADY is

the case. In

other words, *I " and *it* are not-two.

> There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an

imagined

splitting/differentiation takes

places which posits the believed in

> assumption that there is a *me* separate from and

over and again an

*other* or an *it*

that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or

> should accept in order to eliminate the stress,

become enlightened, etc.

This effort or

battle is about as effective as

> yelling at an echo to go away!

>

> To put it another way, when resistance is no more,

when contraction melts,

so-called

*acceptance* is, but then there is no

> *accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply

openness or space.

>

> Michael

>

 

 

 

Acceptance is violence.

 

 

toombaru

 

 

 

PhilA: What are you doing?

PhilB: I'm gonna ask Toom a question.

PhilA: What for?

PhilB: I wanna know what he means by that.

PhilA: And you expect a reasonable answer?

PhilB: Well.......Okay, let's just say I'm curious.

PhilA: Curiosity killed the cat, ya know.

PhilB: I'm okay. He sells scones in a shop in northern

California. It's not

like he's a hit man or sumthin.

PhilA: Okay, but don't say I didn't warn ya.

PhilB: Deal.......Hey Toom!.......What the hell?

 

PhilA/B

 

You got it all wrong Phil, he doesn`t sell scones he

offers them. Be careful..very careful...

Hey, I wonder if Phil A is as hungry as Phil B??

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

Phil A is the one with the negative attitude. I can't take him anywhere!

 

Phil B

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 2/28/2006 9:07:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> Nisargadatta writes:

>

> Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:05:55 -0000

> " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

> Re: Another view of acceptance

>

> Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to do. Now what do

I mean

> by that?

> Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want

> > to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as reduce stress,

think

> it's a 'holy thing'

> to do, will make me enlightened,

> > etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction to, what

ALREADY is

> the case. In

> other words, *I " and *it* are not-two.

> > There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an imagined

> splitting/differentiation takes

> places which posits the believed in

> > assumption that there is a *me* separate from and over and again an

> *other* or an *it*

> that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or

> > should accept in order to eliminate the stress, become

enlightened, etc.

> This effort or

> battle is about as effective as

> > yelling at an echo to go away!

> >

> > To put it another way, when resistance is no more, when

contraction melts,

> so-called

> *acceptance* is, but then there is no

> > *accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply openness or space.

> >

> > Michael

> >

>

>

>

> Acceptance is violence.

>

>

> toombaru

>

>

>

> PhilA: What are you doing?

> PhilB: I'm gonna ask Toom a question.

> PhilA: What for?

> PhilB: I wanna know what he means by that.

> PhilA: And you expect a reasonable answer?

> PhilB: Well.......Okay, let's just say I'm curious.

> PhilA: Curiosity killed the cat, ya know.

 

*But*, as the saying goes, *satisfaction* brought

it back.

 

Bill

 

 

> PhilB: I'm okay. He sells scones in a shop in northern California.

It's not

> like he's a hit man or sumthin.

> PhilA: Okay, but don't say I didn't warn ya.

> PhilB: Deal.......Hey Toom!.......What the hell?

>

> PhilA/B

>

>

>

>

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