RE: effortlessness (no-me: precious gift, the gift of love)

[Guest guest]

The only and most precious gift is listening...implying mindfully spending time

with loved ones, like there is no-me!

 

Bless his heart!!

 

Much love,

 

~no-me~

 

OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: ..you did get my mail saying that

all was helpful,

there was never any feelings of intrusion...?

 

After a difficult day yesterday, spent at the hospital

w/ a youngster in unconsciousness, a family in

turmoil, emergencie room so stuffy, full of

electronics, no air...

Quietly holding his hand, that poor damaged face...

Effortlessness came as an outcome and a precious gift

for all of us that evening.

It is nothing on its own, it is the sweet honey of

undivided attention, it comes all by itself, and pours

its fragrance freely, it is so alive and so felt..

Effort is the disheveled child of divided attention.

much love,

Patricia

 

--- billrishel <illusyn a �crit�:

 

 

Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote:

>

>

> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:29:11 -0000

> " billrishel " <illusyn

> Re: effortlessness

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/28/2006 2:53:09 AM Pacific

Standard Time,

> Nisargadatta writes:

>

> > It seemed like Patricia and I were having a nice

conversation. I

> don't know

> > why my perspective should offend either of you,

nor did I state the

> rightness

> > of my opinion as opposed to that of others.

Again, there seems

to be

> > something that has created struggle here for

you, but I won't

> intrude.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > PS: Did you see my post to this list about

Krishnamurti

> > re effort? Seems to me that says it all pretty

well.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, he did. In fact he says very much the same

thing I did. Weren't

> you

> > concerned that Patricia would feel " beat up " when

she read that post?

>

> Quite the contrary.

> I expected she would find it very meaningful.

>

> But Krishnamurti's comments were not " pointed "

> with respect to one person.

>

> Your remarks to Patricia, on the other hand,

> seemed pointed and intrusive to me. But I

> *did* own my remarks as being just my

> impression/point-of-view. I just said what

> was up for me to say, as you did and do here

> again. No harm in any of that, yes?

>

> Again, " correctness " is never the point.

> Honesty always is.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

> I have enough respect for Patricia to not insult her

by assuming her

ego

> needed to be massaged gently. It is assumed that the

truth, whatever

that might

> be for an individual, is at least slightly more

important than playing

> patty-cake with ego. That goes for everyone on this

list, BTW.

>

> Phil

>

 

You have misread what I was saying, Phil.

But at this point the horse is quite dead.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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