Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 An acceptance of What-Is, can be a surrender of one's intelligent, one's intuitiveness, and better yet, giving up one's instinct totally... This happens when the mind is weak, In a sense that one's cannot say 'no' to garbages etc...! Acceptance of what-Is, is like being passive to nagativity... In a case of denial of what-Is not, one's neither fight nor give in to the instincts.... which we are born with...and we must adapt to changes and understand the consequences of What-Is not, that we are not accepting Must we fight against what one's believe in Maharaj said, " If you like what is given, then accept it, If not, you must fight against what you don't like... " In this case, we all must fight with patience, wisdom, silence, against what we don't like being done to our own loved ones, that is true love here, doing for the purpose of humanity...not for the sake of pride, or satisfaction etc, it is like a meditation, we do it not for the purpose of ourselves, it's done because one's doesn't accept the on-going mind-battle with desire and one's own fear. ~no-me~ Let's say... dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote: --- In Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/1/2006 8:21:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:33:20 -0800 (PST) > no-me <nomemxp > Re: Re: Another view of acceptance (no-me: Acceptance or Denial of > What Isn't) > > > > billrishel <illusyn wrote: --- In > Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > It seems to me that " acceptance " is impossible to do. Now what do I > mean by that? Simply that whatever " it " is that " I " want > > to or should " accept " (for whatever reason such as reduce stress, > think it's a 'holy thing' to do, will make me enlightened, > > etc) is something attempted AFTER, or as a reaction to, what ALREADY > is the case. In other words, *I " and *it* are not-two. > > There's only the " fact " of " what is " . Then an imagined > splitting/differentiation takes places which posits the believed in > > assumption that there is a *me* separate from and over and again an > *other* or an *it* that this *me* ( " I " ) needs to or > > should accept in order to eliminate the stress, become enlightened, > etc. This effort or battle is about as effective as > > yelling at an echo to go away! > > > > To put it another way, when resistance is no more, when contraction > melts, so-called *acceptance* is, but then there is no > > *accepted* or *acceptor* either. There is simply openness or space. > > > > Michael > > > > Yes, acceptance isn't *done*. > > Acceptance is unconditional surrender to What Is. > > And yes, acceptance means no-resistance. > > When immersion in the Now is complete > acceptance is not an issue, cannot be > an issue. > > > Bill > > > ...Just curious....here! > > What happens when there is " What Is Not " ? > > Isn't it true that there must not be either " Acceptance or Denial " in a > concept of Avaita? Isn't 'Acceptance' implying " Denial " . And acceptance must > imply 'taking' instead of 'giving'? Since the avaitar concept, Taking or > Giving are not also Two. > > For example, acceptance of what is given can put a recipient into a very > uncomfortable situation. For example, when a child is let playing with > poisonous snake. There must be conditional there implying that the snake is > dangerous. In this case, predisposition is needed. In this case, a gift must be > given! > > When a giver and receiver are separated, then the situation cannot be > unconditional. What is given, must not be kept, like gifts, or presents, which can > only be given, not kept!! Since both giving and taking imply the same > thing. > > For example, the gift of love, which cannot be kept. And the recipient > cannot and should not accept or denial this either. > > Should a gift is denied, in this case, the owner of that gift must not be > satisfied. So he/she must neither accept or deny the consequences. Another > word, whatever the consequences of acceptance or denial of such " What Is or > What Isn't " , depends on one's own pre-disposition (Samsakara)!! And samsakara > is learned...based on Karma. > > ~no-me~ > > > > > I have no idea what's being said here. Why must such a simple concept as > acceptance be made so complex? > > Phil yes Phil....the subject is about " acceptance " .....aren't you " conscious " about? Marc Ps: you seem to be the one who " see " something " complex " .... maybe you should start...to ask yourself about the reason why > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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