Is There an Inside, a Within? (no-me: more about soul/answer to marc/meth)

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " methusalum " <methusalum@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Is there only one soul or a completely soulless existence, what

> blind

> > superstition is this?

 

no-me:

First one must know what soul is? In order to know what soul is one must ask

what soul is not?

What is it not? Is not tangible? Is it visible or invisible?

 

Soul is just an imagination of vivid light...created by the mind for the

purpose of its existence. the mind must have something to imagine, or it is

dead. The soul is all imagination. By imagination, it creates an 'image' of

the physical world...for the purpose of its dualistic mentalities.

 

The astral world has that same similar functions...and it's beyond senses...the

sensation of being or experiencing the soul is ineffable. Why? There is no

description or words or languages to describe the astral body.

 

Of what use is knowing the existence of soul? And To whom is this essence of

knowledge? That same theory is true, with trying to prove the existence of air

or energy. Even upon the appearance of soul, what use is it, as long as there

is an absence of that witness, the " me " ?

 

Another word, as long as the 'Who needs to know' cannot be answered, of what

use is the proven of soul? It is like asking a tree a question, " Tree, do you

know that you are a tree, not a bird? " What use of this concept to a tree, if

it is a bird or insect? A tree is a tree. It is a bird, if we way it is.

 

Who needs to know?

 

Should we follow a principle even to

logical

> > absurdity? Look at the inference to the very real multiplicity

of

> > locations. Do you and I share the same location?

 

no-me:

 

You, I and all of use, share the same space (which is not empty),

but to the body-mind, the physical space is empty....!

To the soul, the space, distance or time, are one!

 

Since we are, the soul, without the interference of the body-mind organism,

we are closer than we think we are...as a matter of truth, nobody has left the

mother womb yet...! We are still confined in a single space (which is not at

all empty, but solid of energy).

 

The reason why there is a such a question is because of the separation of the

'You' and the 'I'.

 

>Why do I peer into the

> > contents of what could be termed my mind (as if from some

ethereal

> > location), and yet your mind is closed off to me (as if by great

> > distance or other barrier)?

 

no-me: like mahraj said, 'you and i differ only the contents of our dreams.

the rest are the same, that is the soul.'

 

Surely as there can be no duplicity

in

> non-

> > dualism, I must invalidate the evidence to the contrary using

> whatever

> > means at my disposal. However, it seems logical and cannot be

> refuted

> > easily by argument, so I must attack the originator! Thus I must

be

> a

> > lunatic! What other evidence is needed but my constantly

answering

> both

> > sides of the argument. :-)

> >

 

no-me:

 

all the answers lie in the questions. if one keeps pounding harder enough into

a concept, that concept is usually vanished, like a concept of a soul. soon,

one experiences this void or blank, completely silence.

 

a soul is vanished, the minute it is revealed. it is that quick. if we

contemplate on the soul, as being the single source of entity (suppose it's

tangible), it shall disappear, and everything shall be, just like what Marc's

words.

 

> > Meth

>

>

>

> there is only one soul

>

> there is no logic existing to give this one soul a definition

>

> if the soul could be written down in a definition......everything

> would disappear....in just a moment of time

>

> i know how deep are the attachments to this appearing

world....which

> is nothing but fiction......

> the source of this fiction is nothing else but the ego-mind

>

> an ego-mind is used to sit there....calculating, thinking,

inventing,

> playing, writing, sleeping......

> nearly impossible for an ego-mind to " imagine " something else

>

> but there we are.....

>

> when the intellect come to an end....with all possible

> imaginations.....and still being unsatisfied.....means, with

restless

> mind

> then there is soul appearing.....the inner voice of truth......

>

> the key to hear this voice....is deep inner love......

>

> and there we are.....

>

> when this inner love is missing......there is complete

> confusion.....coming...and going.....

> just like dream during sleep is coming....and going.....daily

>

>

> wish your heart....leaving a message

>

> Marc

>

>

>

What of the separate locations? Or does your one soul manifest 6-

billion distinct identities/ personalities, each with its own pattern

of perceiving and interacting with the environment. That would be one

major schizo

 

By the way, an ellipsis has three dots.

 

Meth

Again, the reason one views the soul as being a single entity or identity is

because of the wrong identification of the self to the non-self...! The soul is

not like that of an x,y,z character...! It is a poll of light...shining at

different angle to empower different body-mind organism. Within this x,y,z

organism, senses allow them to see themselves completely being individuality or

me, me, me, he, she etc...!

 

Everybody has two different physical domains, one being the physical body, and

the other is the astral body, which is not different from each other....!!!

 

Just concept here!!

 

~no-me~

 

 

 

Just be!

http://nomezone.com/

 

 

 

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> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " methusalum " <methusalum@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Is there only one soul or a completely soulless existence, what

> > blind

> > > superstition is this?

>

> no-me:

> First one must know what soul is? In order to know what soul is one must

> ask what soul is not?

> What is it not? Is not tangible? Is it visible or invisible?

>

> Soul is just an imagination of vivid light...created by the mind for the

> purpose of its existence. the mind must have something to imagine, or it

> is dead. The soul is all imagination. By imagination, it creates an

> 'image' of the physical world...for the purpose of its dualistic

> mentalities.

>

> The astral world has that same similar functions...and it's beyond

> senses...the sensation of being or experiencing the soul is ineffable.

> Why? There is no description or words or languages to describe the astral

> body.

>

> Of what use is knowing the existence of soul? And To whom is this

> essence of knowledge? That same theory is true, with trying to prove the

> existence of air or energy. Even upon the appearance of soul, what use

> is it, as long as there is an absence of that witness, the " me " ?

>

> Another word, as long as the 'Who needs to know' cannot be answered, of

> what use is the proven of soul? It is like asking a tree a question,

> " Tree, do you know that you are a tree, not a bird? " What use of this

> concept to a tree, if it is a bird or insect? A tree is a tree. It is a

> bird, if we way it is.

>

> Who needs to know?

>

> Should we follow a principle even to

> logical

> > > absurdity? Look at the inference to the very real multiplicity

> of

> > > locations. Do you and I share the same location?

>

> no-me:

>

> You, I and all of use, share the same space (which is not empty),

> but to the body-mind, the physical space is empty....!

> To the soul, the space, distance or time, are one!

>

> Since we are, the soul, without the interference of the body-mind

> organism,

> we are closer than we think we are...as a matter of truth, nobody has

> left the mother womb yet...! We are still confined in a single space

> (which is not at all empty, but solid of energy).

>

> The reason why there is a such a question is because of the separation of

> the 'You' and the 'I'.

>

> >Why do I peer into the

> > > contents of what could be termed my mind (as if from some

> ethereal

> > > location), and yet your mind is closed off to me (as if by great

> > > distance or other barrier)?

>

> no-me: like mahraj said, 'you and i differ only the contents of our

> dreams. the rest are the same, that is the soul.'

>

> Surely as there can be no duplicity

> in

> > non-

> > > dualism, I must invalidate the evidence to the contrary using

> > whatever

> > > means at my disposal. However, it seems logical and cannot be

> > refuted

> > > easily by argument, so I must attack the originator! Thus I must

> be

> > a

> > > lunatic! What other evidence is needed but my constantly

> answering

> > both

> > > sides of the argument. :-)

> > >

>

> no-me:

>

> all the answers lie in the questions. if one keeps pounding harder

> enough into a concept, that concept is usually vanished, like a concept

> of a soul. soon, one experiences this void or blank, completely silence.

>

> a soul is vanished, the minute it is revealed. it is that quick. if we

> contemplate on the soul, as being the single source of entity (suppose

> it's tangible), it shall disappear, and everything shall be, just like

> what Marc's words.

>

> > > Meth

> >

> >

> >

> > there is only one soul

> >

> > there is no logic existing to give this one soul a definition

> >

> > if the soul could be written down in a definition......everything

> > would disappear....in just a moment of time

> >

> > i know how deep are the attachments to this appearing

> world....which

> > is nothing but fiction......

> > the source of this fiction is nothing else but the ego-mind

> >

> > an ego-mind is used to sit there....calculating, thinking,

> inventing,

> > playing, writing, sleeping......

> > nearly impossible for an ego-mind to " imagine " something else

> >

> > but there we are.....

> >

> > when the intellect come to an end....with all possible

> > imaginations.....and still being unsatisfied.....means, with

> restless

> > mind

> > then there is soul appearing.....the inner voice of truth......

> >

> > the key to hear this voice....is deep inner love......

> >

> > and there we are.....

> >

> > when this inner love is missing......there is complete

> > confusion.....coming...and going.....

> > just like dream during sleep is coming....and going.....daily

> >

> >

> > wish your heart....leaving a message

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> >

> What of the separate locations? Or does your one soul manifest 6-

> billion distinct identities/ personalities, each with its own pattern

> of perceiving and interacting with the environment. That would be one

> major schizo

>

> By the way, an ellipsis has three dots.

>

> Meth

> Again, the reason one views the soul as being a single entity or identity

> is because of the wrong identification of the self to the non-self...!

> The soul is not like that of an x,y,z character...! It is a poll of

> light...shining at different angle to empower different body-mind

> organism. Within this x,y,z organism, senses allow them to see themselves

> completely being individuality or me, me, me, he, she etc...!

>

> Everybody has two different physical domains, one being the physical body,

> and the other is the astral body, which is not different from each

> other....!!!

>

> Just concept here!!

>

> ~no-me~

 

 

 

Hmmm...

 

Being no me is _________(filling in the blanks), an astrological affixing

in the mixing of time zones intermittently called now and then again.

 

Just who disassociated from the astral?

 

Being This Is,

no me-me meme,

(subjectively calling herself Ana for a time being) ;-)

 

 

>

>

>

> Just be!

> http://nomezone.com/

>

>

>

> Mail

> Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

>

>

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annaruiz wrote:

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " methusalum " <methusalum@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Is there only one soul or a completely soulless existence, what

> > blind

> > > superstition is this?

>

> no-me:

> First one must know what soul is? In order to know what soul is one must

> ask what soul is not?

> What is it not? Is not tangible? Is it visible or invisible?

>

> Soul is just an imagination of vivid light...created by the mind for the

> purpose of its existence. the mind must have something to imagine, or it

> is dead. The soul is all imagination. By imagination, it creates an

> 'image' of the physical world...for the purpose of its dualistic

> mentalities.

>

> The astral world has that same similar functions...and it's beyond

> senses...the sensation of being or experiencing the soul is ineffable.

> Why? There is no description or words or languages to describe the astral

> body.

>

> Of what use is knowing the existence of soul? And To whom is this

> essence of knowledge? That same theory is true, with trying to prove the

> existence of air or energy. Even upon the appearance of soul, what use

> is it, as long as there is an absence of that witness, the " me " ?

>

> Another word, as long as the 'Who needs to know' cannot be answered, of

> what use is the proven of soul? It is like asking a tree a question,

> " Tree, do you know that you are a tree, not a bird? " What use of this

> concept to a tree, if it is a bird or insect? A tree is a tree. It is a

> bird, if we way it is.

>

> Who needs to know?

>

> Should we follow a principle even to

> logical

> > > absurdity? Look at the inference to the very real multiplicity

> of

> > > locations. Do you and I share the same location?

>

> no-me:

>

> You, I and all of use, share the same space (which is not empty),

> but to the body-mind, the physical space is empty....!

> To the soul, the space, distance or time, are one!

>

> Since we are, the soul, without the interference of the body-mind

> organism,

> we are closer than we think we are...as a matter of truth, nobody has

> left the mother womb yet...! We are still confined in a single space

> (which is not at all empty, but solid of energy).

>

> The reason why there is a such a question is because of the separation of

> the 'You' and the 'I'.

>

> >Why do I peer into the

> > > contents of what could be termed my mind (as if from some

> ethereal

> > > location), and yet your mind is closed off to me (as if by great

> > > distance or other barrier)?

>

> no-me: like mahraj said, 'you and i differ only the contents of our

> dreams. the rest are the same, that is the soul.'

>

> Surely as there can be no duplicity

> in

> > non-

> > > dualism, I must invalidate the evidence to the contrary using

> > whatever

> > > means at my disposal. However, it seems logical and cannot be

> > refuted

> > > easily by argument, so I must attack the originator! Thus I must

> be

> > a

> > > lunatic! What other evidence is needed but my constantly

> answering

> > both

> > > sides of the argument. :-)

> > >

>

> no-me:

>

> all the answers lie in the questions. if one keeps pounding harder

> enough into a concept, that concept is usually vanished, like a concept

> of a soul. soon, one experiences this void or blank, completely silence.

>

> a soul is vanished, the minute it is revealed. it is that quick. if we

> contemplate on the soul, as being the single source of entity (suppose

> it's tangible), it shall disappear, and everything shall be, just like

> what Marc's words.

>

> > > Meth

> >

> >

> >

> > there is only one soul

> >

> > there is no logic existing to give this one soul a definition

> >

> > if the soul could be written down in a definition......everything

> > would disappear....in just a moment of time

> >

> > i know how deep are the attachments to this appearing

> world....which

> > is nothing but fiction......

> > the source of this fiction is nothing else but the ego-mind

> >

> > an ego-mind is used to sit there....calculating, thinking,

> inventing,

> > playing, writing, sleeping......

> > nearly impossible for an ego-mind to " imagine " something else

> >

> > but there we are.....

> >

> > when the intellect come to an end....with all possible

> > imaginations.....and still being unsatisfied.....means, with

> restless

> > mind

> > then there is soul appearing.....the inner voice of truth......

> >

> > the key to hear this voice....is deep inner love......

> >

> > and there we are.....

> >

> > when this inner love is missing......there is complete

> > confusion.....coming...and going.....

> > just like dream during sleep is coming....and going.....daily

> >

> >

> > wish your heart....leaving a message

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> >

> What of the separate locations? Or does your one soul manifest 6-

> billion distinct identities/ personalities, each with its own pattern

> of perceiving and interacting with the environment. That would be one

> major schizo

>

> By the way, an ellipsis has three dots.

>

> Meth

> Again, the reason one views the soul as being a single entity or identity

> is because of the wrong identification of the self to the non-self...!

> The soul is not like that of an x,y,z character...! It is a poll of

> light...shining at different angle to empower different body-mind

> organism. Within this x,y,z organism, senses allow them to see themselves

> completely being individuality or me, me, me, he, she etc...!

>

> Everybody has two different physical domains, one being the physical body,

> and the other is the astral body, which is not different from each

> other....!!!

>

> Just concept here!!

>

> ~no-me~

 

 

 

Hmmm...

 

Being no me is _________(filling in the blanks), an astrological affixing

in the mixing of time zones intermittently called now and then again.

 

That is so funny...lol!! Many have a hard time saying, " nome " , but when they

hear, 'no-me', they go, 'oooh'...! Simply enough, no-me!!

 

Just who disassociated from the astral?

 

The non-self.

 

Being This Is,

no me-me meme,

(subjectively calling herself Ana for a time being) ;-)

 

Is Anna or Ana the same or different person?

 

There's a friend who identifies herself in the message, 'moi'..., since no-me is

illiterate in French, he was wondering what that was...and she said, 'me'...then

no-me goes, 'me'. who is 'me'? or who is 'no-me'? whatever...!!

 

 

Just be!

http://nomezone.com/

 

 

 

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