Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at three am last night. So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that fence up would you?) And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end of the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a terrible anguish.. Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind haolling... Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: When my thoughts stop, I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... Winnie the Pooh and his pal Patricia _________________________ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > three am last night. > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that fence > up would you?) > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end of > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a > terrible anguish.. > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind > haolling... > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > When my thoughts stop, > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... Why don´t you just let them go. And fall into the abyss :-) Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002 a écrit : Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > three am last night. > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that fence > up would you?) > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end of > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a > terrible anguish.. > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind > haolling... > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > When my thoughts stop, > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... Why don´t you just let them go. And fall into the abyss :-) Len dear Len, my dear Len...how I wish the terror would go...but in the middle of the night..there is no reasonning, no memorie, no voices to tell me what you just did, just a big open hole.. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002 a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. > > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > > three am last night. > > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that > fence > > up would you?) > > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end > of > > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a > > terrible anguish.. > > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind > > haolling... > > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > > When my thoughts stop, > > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... > > > Why don´t you just let them go. > And fall into the abyss :-) > > Len > > dear Len, my dear Len...how I wish the terror would > go...but in the middle of the night..there is no > reasonning, no memorie, no voices to tell me what you > just did, just a big open hole.. > Patricia I know. But if you´re ready to fall it may work on through your dreams. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002 a écrit : Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002 a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. > > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > > three am last night. > > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that > fence > > up would you?) > > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end > of > > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a > > terrible anguish.. > > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind > > haolling... > > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > > When my thoughts stop, > > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... > > > Why don´t you just let them go. > And fall into the abyss :-) > > Len > > dear Len, my dear Len...how I wish the terror would > go...but in the middle of the night..there is no > reasonning, no memorie, no voices to tell me what you > just did, just a big open hole.. > Patricia I know. But if you´re ready to fall it may work on through your dreams. Len ...................................................... Hmmhmmm..Maybe.... Quisas...perhaps...peut-etre... I sure can`t make the jump, it will happen when it will happen...maybe that is what is called ..<the instant of Grace>...Le coup de grace..? I always thought knowedge would be the solution, but at this hour, there ain`t no knowedge around... Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002 a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > Patricia > > <gdtige@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old > dream. > > > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > > > three am last night. > > > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > > > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that > > fence > > > up would you?) > > > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the > end > > of > > > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but > a > > > terrible anguish.. > > > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, > wind > > > haolling... > > > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > > > When my thoughts stop, > > > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them > back... > > > > > > Why don´t you just let them go. > > And fall into the abyss :-) > > > > Len > > > > dear Len, my dear Len...how I wish the terror would > > go...but in the middle of the night..there is no > > reasonning, no memorie, no voices to tell me what > you > > just did, just a big open hole.. > > Patricia > > > > I know. > But if you´re ready to fall it may work on through > your dreams. > > Len > > ..................................................... > Hmmhmmm..Maybe.... Quisas...perhaps...peut-etre... > I sure can`t make the jump, it will happen when it > will happen.. " It' can never happen to the identified entity. The assumption of self (I am) is the only obstacle. Once that is seen through....all falls in to place. ..maybe that is what is called ..<the > instant of Grace>...Le coup de grace..? " Grace " is merely another useless hope.....one more word for " God " . Grace can not help something that never was. > I always thought knowedge would be the solution, but > at this hour, there ain`t no knowedge around... > Patricia > > Knowledge compounds the 'problem'....and tighten ti knots Understanding is the key to the door that never was. Leave no scone unturned. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002 a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. > > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > > three am last night. > > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that > fence > > up would you?) > > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end > of > > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a > > terrible anguish.. > > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind > > haolling... > > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > > When my thoughts stop, > > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... > > > Why don´t you just let them go. > And fall into the abyss :-) > > Len > > dear Len, my dear Len...how I wish the terror would > go...but in the middle of the night..there is no > reasonning, no memorie, no voices to tell me what you > just did, just a big open hole.. > Patricia > > > > Illusory separation and terror are conjoined twins. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. > > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > > three am last night. > > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that > fence > > up would you?) > > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end > of > > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a > > terrible anguish.. > > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind > > haolling... > > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > > When my thoughts stop, > > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... > My dear.........it was all just a bad dream. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 In a message dated 3/3/2006 11:35:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 23:24:32 +0100 (CET) OConnor Patricia <gdtige RE: bringing thoughts back Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at three am last night. So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that fence up would you?) And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end of the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a terrible anguish.. Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind haolling... Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: When my thoughts stop, I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... Winnie the Pooh and his pal Patricia Ahh, yes, that's why Silver and I are pretty comfy with our campfire and mugwort, roasting weenies. It's awfully black down there. I know it's not pleasant, but I hope you see the dreams as a good sign. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 In a message dated 3/3/2006 11:35:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:14:06 -0000 " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 Re: bringing thoughts back Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > three am last night. > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that fence > up would you?) > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end of > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a > terrible anguish.. > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind > haolling... > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > When my thoughts stop, > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... Why don´t you just let them go. And fall into the abyss :-) Len The dream that is our lives is not a lucid one as, I presume, Patricia's was not either. Such transcendent awareness that informs the dreamer of the nature of the dream is actually the 'goal' rather than the means of awakening. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002 a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > Patricia > > <gdtige@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old > dream. > > > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > > > three am last night. > > > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > > > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that > > fence > > > up would you?) > > > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the > end > > of > > > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but > a > > > terrible anguish.. > > > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, > wind > > > haolling... > > > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > > > When my thoughts stop, > > > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them > back... > > > > > > Why don´t you just let them go. > > And fall into the abyss :-) > > > > Len > > > > dear Len, my dear Len...how I wish the terror would > > go...but in the middle of the night..there is no > > reasonning, no memorie, no voices to tell me what > you > > just did, just a big open hole.. > > Patricia > > > > I know. > But if you´re ready to fall it may work on through > your dreams. > > Len > > ..................................................... > Hmmhmmm..Maybe.... Quisas...perhaps...peut-etre... > I sure can`t make the jump, it will happen when it > will happen...maybe that is what is called ..<the > instant of Grace>...Le coup de grace..? > I always thought knowedge would be the solution, but > at this hour, there ain`t no knowedge around... > Patricia When there is no knowledge, nothing to grasp, there is nothing to prevent one from falling. However, one is only falling as long as one is trying to grasp something. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/3/2006 11:35:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:14:06 -0000 > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 > Re: bringing thoughts back > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. > > Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at > > three am last night. > > So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling > > litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that fence > > up would you?) > > And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end of > > the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a > > terrible anguish.. > > Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind > > haolling... > > Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: > > When my thoughts stop, > > I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... > > > Why don´t you just let them go. > And fall into the abyss :-) > > Len > > > > The dream that is our lives is not a lucid one as, I presume, Patricia's was > not either. Such transcendent awareness that informs the dreamer of the > nature of the dream is actually the 'goal' rather than the means of awakening. > > Phil Yes, but your daily attitude works on through your dreams. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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