Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 ADHHUB wrote: In a message dated 3/3/2006 2:34:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:55:30 -0000 " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 Re: Acceptance is violence! Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/2/2006 5:34:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:38:55 -0000 > " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 > Re: Acceptance is violence! > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/1/2006 8:21:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:04:13 -0800 > > " Adamson " <adamson@> > > Re: Acceptance is violence! > > > > > > > > < Acceptance is violence. > > > > < toombaru > > > > Perhaps it is that the " attempt " to accept is violence! Yes? In > my view, > > there is no such thing as *acceptance* except as > > *effortlessness* which also doesn't exist. > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > No such thing as acceptance or effortlessness? They are concepts. > Leave them > > alone. They have value in understanding. What is this campaign to > negate > > understanding? Do folks believe that pretending the illusion > doesn't exist makes > > it disappear? How's that workin for ya? > > > > Phil > > This reminds me of something Niz said: He said something > like " Enlightenment is the ultimate negation of all that you are > not. " Something like that, I forget. Oh well. Whatever. > > " Silver " > > > > Yeah, sumthin like that. He also said, " We grow through > investigation, and to investigate we need experience. We tend to > repeat what we have not understood. " Hmmmmm...... > > Phil *********** Huh? Oh. I get it. Winnie the Pooh, a bear of very little brain, has grown quite a large pot-belly, I would say. He knows exactly where to investigate for honey and he eats from experience. I, on the other hand, big brained human that I am, can't figure out why I can't seem to find any honey under that rock over there. I keep looking there every morning but to no avail. I don't understand. And I'm starving!! " Silver " Zackly. The Truth is always present everywhere. How could it not be? It's all that exists. Pooh bears are too stupid to make up their own truth, and so they just follow their snouts straight to the beehive. Birds are born knowing how and where to build a nest. Spiders are born knowing how to design a web. Flowers are born knowing how to open in the morning, follow the sun across the sky, and close at night. They're too damn stupid to know that they can ignore everything they know and make up something else. Humans are much more smarterer. We have the remarkable ability to erect a facade in our minds to cover up and hide the only thing that really exists. We already know the Truth; I promise you this is so, but we're all atwitter over the one that we create with our superminds. We imagine beehives materializing from the subatomic actualization of the Quantum potential of the dimensional intersection of temporally stabilized energy wavicles, instead of noticing the beehive right under our snouts. And so we starve. " Phil " And how/why is anybody not getting this big picture? Why is anybody still in search for non-existence or god else where, other than within, and Omnipresence? While the Divine Energy is being present at all time, What else is needed to prove this? Close one's eyes for a moment, and realize the Self...just a little bit, And withhold that breath for as long as possible, Everything is still going on... So much are happening at the same time, (from the mind point of view)... But Consciousness or the Energy side, nothing is happening!! And nobody really cares about This or That... It is just the intellects which seem to care, for result and goals, dualistic satisfactions etc.. The ultimate task of this Divine Energy is empowering all living organism to mobile, and functions and feel the love...! And human beings are, as of now, the only living orgnism with the intellects...!! I don't know about dolphins or other living organism. It is with this intellect which makes think we differ. And it is this intellect which prevents us to be as natural as we can be...like our former primates. Maybe other living organism are too smart to care for this type of language used to communicate among the six senses...of the intellectuals. ~no-me~ Just be! http://nomezone.com/ Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 In a message dated 3/3/2006 11:35:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:27:43 -0800 (PST) no-me <nomemxp Re: Acceptance is violence! (no-me: another take...on acceptance) ADHHUB wrote: In a message dated 3/3/2006 2:34:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:55:30 -0000 " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 Re: Acceptance is violence! Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/2/2006 5:34:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:38:55 -0000 > " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 > Re: Acceptance is violence! > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/1/2006 8:21:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:04:13 -0800 > > " Adamson " <adamson@> > > Re: Acceptance is violence! > > > > > > > > < Acceptance is violence. > > > > < toombaru > > > > Perhaps it is that the " attempt " to accept is violence! Yes? In > my view, > > there is no such thing as *acceptance* except as > > *effortlessness* which also doesn't exist. > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > No such thing as acceptance or effortlessness? They are concepts. > Leave them > > alone. They have value in understanding. What is this campaign to > negate > > understanding? Do folks believe that pretending the illusion > doesn't exist makes > > it disappear? How's that workin for ya? > > > > Phil > > This reminds me of something Niz said: He said something > like " Enlightenment is the ultimate negation of all that you are > not. " Something like that, I forget. Oh well. Whatever. > > " Silver " > > > > Yeah, sumthin like that. He also said, " We grow through > investigation, and to investigate we need experience. We tend to > repeat what we have not understood. " Hmmmmm...... > > Phil *********** Huh? Oh. I get it. Winnie the Pooh, a bear of very little brain, has grown quite a large pot-belly, I would say. He knows exactly where to investigate for honey and he eats from experience. I, on the other hand, big brained human that I am, can't figure out why I can't seem to find any honey under that rock over there. I keep looking there every morning but to no avail. I don't understand. And I'm starving!! " Silver " Zackly. The Truth is always present everywhere. How could it not be? It's all that exists. Pooh bears are too stupid to make up their own truth, and so they just follow their snouts straight to the beehive. Birds are born kno wing how and where to build a nest. Spiders are born knowing how to design a web. Flowers are born knowing how to open in the morning, follow the sun across the sky, and close at night. They're too damn stupid to know that they can ignore everything they know and make up something else. Humans are much more smarterer. We have the remarkable ability to erect a facade in our minds to cover up and hide the only thing that really exists. We already know the Truth; I promise you this is so, but we're all atwitter over the one that we create with our superminds. We imagine beehives materializing from the subatomic actualization of the Quantum potential of the dimensional intersection of temporally stabilized energy wavicles, instead of noticing the beehive right under our snouts. And so we starve. " Phil " And how/why is anybody not getting this big picture? Why is anybody still in search for non-existence or god else where, other than within, and Omnipresence? While the Divine Energy is being present at all time, What else is needed to prove this? Close one's eyes for a moment, and realize the Self...just a little bit, And withhold that breath for as long as possible, Everything is still going on... So much are happening at the same time, (from the mind point of view)... But Consciousness or the Energy side, nothing is happening!! And nobody really cares about This or That... It is just the intellects which seem to care, for result and goals, dualistic satisfactions etc.. The ultimate task of this Divine Energy is empowering all living organism to mobile, and functions and feel the love...! And human beings are, as of now, the only living orgnism with the intellects...!! I don't know about dolphins or other living organism. It is with this intellect which makes think we differ. And it is this intellect which prevents us to be as natural as we can be...like our former primates. Maybe other living organism are too smart to care for this type of language used to communicate among the six senses...of the intellectuals. ~no-me~ The downside of being a Pooh bear, of course, is that he can never transcend his Poohbearness. The same self awareness that seemingly traps us in our own illusion also allows for the possibility of transcending our own limited awareness and returning to the source to complete the circle. It's a wondrous adventure, and this is the reason that we're still 'here'. Hmmmm, I wonder if anybody's gonna buy that one. The Self knows how to awaken from it's dream, but the mind itself is split by it's own dual nature, with one eye on heaven and the other on hell. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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