Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at three am last night. So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that fence up would you?) And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end of the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a terrible anguish.. Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind haolling... Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: When my thoughts stop, I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... Winnie the Pooh and his pal Patricia ~~~~~~~~~ Dear Patricia, Here is my interpretation of your dream: The dream reflects a crisis in the psyche brought on by recent spiritual transformations that both open new vistas and a sense of vast uncertainty. The only way forward is a reconciliation with the uncertainty, a courageous embracing of the uncertainty as true and good. To do so, however, entails a facing of ancient fears, which now come up, as prompted by these recent changes. The fear about the stopping of thoughts is only symbolic of a fear of " losing one's grip " upon entering into the Unknown. I quote below something by Jim Brooks (at least I believe that is the author's name), that seems to me to apply. Bill Deep down you know that to look Withinwards is to look into Nothingness. There is Nothing. And that is scary, that frightens. At the very Core there is Nothingness. The wheel of all moves on that axle of Nothingness. So, afraid of the Inner Nothingness, we go on rushing into the World. The fear of one's own Non-Being takes you on a long, long Journey. You go on rushing into this direction, into that. You have to rush, because if you don't rush you will stumble upon your Nothingness WithIn you... and there is fear. You are frightened of that -- you don't want to see that you are Not. Your Being is Non-Being: you are not ready to look into it, to accept it. You are Death Living. Death is there, and at the very Core of your Being there is just Emptiness -- what Buddha calls Anatta. There is no Self, there is no Being, there is no 'I'. And somehow everybody knows it -- hence nobody goes Inwards, everybody goes Outwards. Outwards you can befool yourself, you can deceive yourself. You can create a many games, you can play with those games -- they are not going to help, but still you can pass your time with those games. You can become so engrossed in them that for those engrossed moments you can forget your Inner Nothingness. But this Inner Nothingness is not like an accident. It is not accidental, it is your very Being. So you cannot escape from it, do whatsoever you want to do. Nobody has been able to escape from it. You can go on postponing, you can go on delaying that experience, but one day or other, that experience has to be gone through. And that day is the day of Great Blessing, Great Rejoicing, when you come to know your Inner Non-Being, you have come Home. Because with that experience all Fear disappears. When you know you are Not, how can you be afraid -- of what? for what? And WHO can be afraid? When you know you are Not, where can Desire exist? with whom? for whom? from whom? When you are not, how can you become Somebody? Knowing one's Non-Being, there is great Rest. The Seeker has disappeared, the Desirer is no more, the Becomer has not been found. So the foundation has disappeared -- and the whole palace made of playing-cards simply shatters to the ground. ... That's what [is meant] by Enlightenment... Emptiness has become Luminous, Full of Light ...and now there is no effort to Destroy it, no effort to Fill it. It is Beautiful as it is. from " Going WithIn " The Great Paradox -- Jim Brooks (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 --- billrishel <illusyn a écrit : Their has been a reoccuring dream, years old dream. Maybe I finally understood some of its meaning at three am last night. So in the dream, every thing goes wrong, falling litteraly into the dam abyss. (Silver, put that fence up would you?) And then...nothing...but my pounding heart, the end of the world...nothing to hang on to...nothing...but a terrible anguish.. Last night, the rain was pelting on the window, wind haolling... Same dream... The suspension of time,...and this: When my thoughts stop, I worrie that I won`t be able to bring them back... Winnie the Pooh and his pal Patricia ~~~~~~~~~ Dear Patricia, Here is my interpretation of your dream: The dream reflects a crisis in the psyche brought on by recent spiritual transformations that both open new vistas and a sense of vast uncertainty. The only way forward is a reconciliation with the uncertainty, a courageous embracing of the uncertainty as true and good. To do so, however, entails a facing of ancient fears, which now come up, as prompted by these recent changes. The fear about the stopping of thoughts is only symbolic of a fear of " losing one's grip " upon entering into the Unknown. I quote below something by Jim Brooks (at least I believe that is the author's name), that seems to me to apply. Bill Deep down you know that to look Withinwards is to look into Nothingness. There is Nothing. And that is scary, that frightens. At the very Core there is Nothingness. The wheel of all moves on that axle of Nothingness. So, afraid of the Inner Nothingness, we go on rushing into the World. The fear of one's own Non-Being takes you on a long, long Journey. You go on rushing into this direction, into that. You have to rush, because if you don't rush you will stumble upon your Nothingness WithIn you... and there is fear. You are frightened of that -- you don't want to see that you are Not. Your Being is Non-Being: you are not ready to look into it, to accept it. You are Death Living. Death is there, and at the very Core of your Being there is just Emptiness -- what Buddha calls Anatta. There is no Self, there is no Being, there is no 'I'. And somehow everybody knows it -- hence nobody goes Inwards, everybody goes Outwards. Outwards you can befool yourself, you can deceive yourself. You can create a many games, you can play with those games -- they are not going to help, but still you can pass your time with those games. You can become so engrossed in them that for those engrossed moments you can forget your Inner Nothingness. But this Inner Nothingness is not like an accident. It is not accidental, it is your very Being. So you cannot escape from it, do whatsoever you want to do. Nobody has been able to escape from it. You can go on postponing, you can go on delaying that experience, but one day or other, that experience has to be gone through. And that day is the day of Great Blessing, Great Rejoicing, when you come to know your Inner Non-Being, you have come Home. Because with that experience all Fear disappears. When you know you are Not, how can you be afraid -- of what? for what? And WHO can be afraid? When you know you are Not, where can Desire exist? with whom? for whom? from whom? When you are not, how can you become Somebody? Knowing one's Non-Being, there is great Rest. The Seeker has disappeared, the Desirer is no more, the Becomer has not been found. So the foundation has disappeared -- and the whole palace made of playing-cards simply shatters to the ground. ... That's what [is meant] by Enlightenment... Emptiness has become Luminous, Full of Light ...and now there is no effort to Destroy it, no effort to Fill it. It is Beautiful as it is. from " Going WithIn " The Great Paradox -- Jim Brooks (?) Thank-you! it is a very interesting experience because it goes against all my beliefs, all my conditionning, centuries of karma...it is the facing of knowedge destruction. Part of me says <no, this is wrong, don`t let it happen,> and then there is that very knowedge of another state that needs to be destroyed also.. Do you see what I mean? I am facing destruction of the very core of illusion. Me. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 ooks (?) > > Thank-you! > it is a very interesting experience because it goes > against all my beliefs, all my conditionning, > centuries of karma...it is the facing of knowedge > destruction. Part of me says > <no, this is wrong, don`t let it happen,> > and then there is that very knowedge of another state > that needs to be destroyed also.. > Do you see what I mean? > I am facing destruction of the very core of illusion. > Me. > Patricia > > An idea cannot be destroyed. (but you still do have a very good reason to be frightened) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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