Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 L.E: All of the following takes place in the realm of ego, relative defensive self or personality. It is real only within its limited frame of reference, that is, in the social agreements that compose part of the ego structure. None of this verbal stuff exists in reality in which ego drama occurs. It's amusing, and fun, and time absorbing but for the most part, irrelevant to the basc survival of the human organism, and life itself. Larry Epston n a message dated 3/5/2006 9:50:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, lastrain writes: > > > > Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:59:34 -0000 > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > >Re: Belief > > > > > >> > >> > >>Yer welcome. Yes, there's a similar process going on here that's helpful. > > >>As far as missing anything, it was just another cutsy PhilA/B thing > >>regarding your statement that acceptance is violence. Now belief is > >violence, which > >>registers only in the sense that beliefs limit and separate. Acceptance > is > > > >>only 'violence' in the sense that effort is expended. True acceptance is > > >>effortless. > >> > >>Phil > >> > > > > " Acceptance " is a description of a perceived process that welcomes the > >existence of > >some-thing perceived and a perceiver. > > > >Acceptance is a welcoming whose existence requires a polar opposite which > >would be a > >rejecting....Acceptance implies a selective action. > > > >Some-thing is accepted....something else is rejected based on perceived > >value to an > >imaginary center. > > > >Infinity has no center........nothing in which " acceptance " could find a > >home.....and no > >isolated thing or event that could be accepted. > > > >Does the ocean accept the rain? > > > >Does an animal accept the pain? > > > > > >Acceptance is violence. > > > > > >toombaru > > > > > > > >Okay, I see where yer comin from. In my lingo, a focus on acceptance is of > > >course dualistic, and energizes a field of consciousness that contains both > > >acceptance and nonacceptance. This is how all dualities are created. > > > >Howsoever, acceptance is not something that is done; the word does not > >describe a doing or something that is brought about through an act of > will, but > >merely describes the presence of a condition. Acceptance can be present, > and > >this is not violence. Rather, it ends violence. > > > >Phil > > > > > > > acceptance > n 1: the mental attitude that something is believable and should be accepted > as true; " he > gave credence to the gossip " ; " acceptance of Newtonian mechanics was > unquestioned for > 200 years " [syn: credence] 2: the act of accepting with approval; favorable > reception; " its > adoption by society " ; " the proposal found wide acceptance " [syn: adoption, > acceptation, > espousal] 3: the state of being acceptable and accepted; " torn jeans > received no > acceptance at the country club " [ant: rejection] 4: (contract law) words > signifying consent > to the terms of an offer (thereby creating a contract) 5: banking: a time > draft drawn on and > accepted by a bank [syn: banker's acceptance] 6: a disposition to tolerate > or accept people > or situations; " all people should practice toleration and live together in > peace " [syn: > toleration, sufferance] 7: the act of taking something that is offered; " her > acceptance of > the gift encouraged him " ; " he anticipated their acceptance of his offer " > > > > > We are perhaps...discussing a different concept. > > > toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Yes, it's irrelevant to human survival, but maybe most folks here aren't so concerned about their human survival. Maybe they're more concerned about transcending the limits of their 'human' consciousness, and maybe understanding is part of this process. The ego is understandably not very interested in accepting anything unconditionally. Phil In a message dated 3/6/2006 4:10:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:06:34 EST epston Re: Acceptance and the Real L.E: All of the following takes place in the realm of ego, relative defensive self or personality. It is real only within its limited frame of reference, that is, in the social agreements that compose part of the ego structure. None of this verbal stuff exists in reality in which ego drama occurs. It's amusing, and fun, and time absorbing but for the most part, irrelevant to the basc survival of the human organism, and life itself. Larry Epston n a message dated 3/5/2006 9:50:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, lastrain writes: > > > > Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:59:34 -0000 > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > >Re: Belief > > > > > >> > >> > >>Yer welcome. Yes, there's a similar process going on here that's helpful. > > >>As far as missing anything, it was just another cutsy PhilA/B thing > >>regarding your statement that acceptance is violence. Now belief is > >violence, which > >>registers only in the sense that beliefs limit and separate. Acceptance > is > > > >>only 'violence' in the sense that effort is expended. True acceptance is > > >>effortless. > >> > >>Phil > >> > > > > " Acceptance " is a description of a perceived process that welcomes the > >existence of > >some-thing perceived and a perceiver. > > > >Acceptance is a welcoming whose existence requires a polar opposite which > >would be a > >rejecting....Acceptance implies a selective action. > > > >Some-thing is accepted....something else is rejected based on perceived > >value to an > >imaginary center. > > > >Infinity has no center........nothing in which " acceptance " could find a > >home.....and no > >isolated thing or event that could be accepted. > > > >Does the ocean accept the rain? > > > >Does an animal accept the pain? > > > > > >Acceptance is violence. > > > > > >toombaru > > > > > > > >Okay, I see where yer comin from. In my lingo, a focus on acceptance is of > > >course dualistic, and energizes a field of consciousness that contains both > > >acceptance and nonacceptance. This is how all dualities are created. > > > >Howsoever, acceptance is not something that is done; the word does not > >describe a doing or something that is brought about through an act of > will, but > >merely describes the presence of a condition. Acceptance can be present, > and > >this is not violence. Rather, it ends violence. > > > >Phil > > > > > > > acceptance > n 1: the mental attitude that something is believable and should be accepted > as true; " he > gave credence to the gossip " ; " acceptance of Newtonian mechanics was > unquestioned for > 200 years " [syn: credence] 2: the act of accepting with approval; favorable > reception; " its > adoption by society " ; " the proposal found wide acceptance " [syn: adoption, > acceptation, > espousal] 3: the state of being acceptable and accepted; " torn jeans > received no > acceptance at the country club " [ant: rejection] 4: (contract law) words > signifying consent > to the terms of an offer (thereby creating a contract) 5: banking: a time > draft drawn on and > accepted by a bank [syn: banker's acceptance] 6: a disposition to tolerate > or accept people > or situations; " all people should practice toleration and live together in > peace " [syn: > toleration, sufferance] 7: the act of taking something that is offered; " her > acceptance of > the gift encouraged him " ; " he anticipated their acceptance of his offer " > > > > > We are perhaps...discussing a different concept. > > > toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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