Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 now, now, bill, no need to get defensive. btw, it wasnt advice, but reading her soul and recognising that she wasnt being nourished here. asked this question yesterday but no one (he-he) answered. so, since you " seem " to be here, what is the purpose of this board? at least what is your purpose here? you are here right? (gotta qualify these questions it seems) - billrishel Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:24 PM Re: Stop the chatter Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > this is not meant with disrespect, have you considered the possibility that this isn't the place for you and the exploration your on. Fred, are you kinda new here? If so, perhaps you don't know whereof you speak. But what you might indeed do is apply your advice to yourself. A very good place to start as far as getting to know what this list is about. Bill > - > OConnor Patricia > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:41 AM > RE: Stop the chatter > > > I really like Pete`s message yesterday, " what is > happening to so and so? " > I appreciated the reminder that I am not here for tea > and bridge but for meeting and sharing something > infinitely precious. I`ve been getting headache lately > at trying to stay put w/ the all the chattering and > constant exercice of restless minds. There is no > point of sharing anything unless it is deeply rooted > in a day full of deep reverence toward what is most > precious and alive in each one of us. The constant > chatter of mind is what robs it of its very much > needed space. > Stop acting like Gods when you are only lost, stop > covering your nakedness with repeated concepts over > and over. > Start with quietness, feed quietness, allow calm to > prevail, land your ear to Life within you, give a rest > to your mind and fingers, .... > and then, one maybe ready to share something that > springs from somewhere else than inflamed minds. > Affection to all, > Patricia > > > > > > > _________________________ > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 what is the purpose of this board? ~~~~~~ Check the home page of this site. That defines the purpose. This site is dedicated to studying the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj. Are you at all familiar with Nisargadatta's teachings, Fred? Bill Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > now, now, bill, no need to get defensive. btw, it wasnt advice, but reading her soul and recognising that she wasnt being nourished here. asked this question yesterday but no one (he-he) answered. so, since you " seem " to be here, what is the purpose of this board? at least what is your purpose here? you are here right? (gotta qualify these questions it seems) > - > billrishel > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:24 PM > Re: Stop the chatter > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > this is not meant with disrespect, have you considered the > possibility that this isn't the place for you and the exploration your on. > > Fred, are you kinda new here? > > If so, perhaps you don't know whereof you speak. > > But what you might indeed do is apply your advice > to yourself. A very good place to start as far > as getting to know what this list is about. > > > Bill > > > > > > > - > > OConnor Patricia > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:41 AM > > RE: Stop the chatter > > > > > > I really like Pete`s message yesterday, " what is > > happening to so and so? " > > I appreciated the reminder that I am not here for tea > > and bridge but for meeting and sharing something > > infinitely precious. I`ve been getting headache lately > > at trying to stay put w/ the all the chattering and > > constant exercice of restless minds. There is no > > point of sharing anything unless it is deeply rooted > > in a day full of deep reverence toward what is most > > precious and alive in each one of us. The constant > > chatter of mind is what robs it of its very much > > needed space. > > Stop acting like Gods when you are only lost, stop > > covering your nakedness with repeated concepts over > > and over. > > Start with quietness, feed quietness, allow calm to > > prevail, land your ear to Life within you, give a rest > > to your mind and fingers, .... > > and then, one maybe ready to share something that > > springs from somewhere else than inflamed minds. > > Affection to all, > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez > les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 --- billrishel <illusyn a écrit : what is the purpose of this board? ~~~~~~ Check the home page of this site. That defines the purpose. This site is dedicated to studying the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj. Are you at all familiar with Nisargadatta's teachings, Fred? Bill > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > this is not meant with disrespect, have you considered the > possibility that this isn't the place for you and the exploration your on. > > Fred, are you kinda new here? > > If so, perhaps you don't know whereof you speak. > > But what you might indeed do is apply your advice > to yourself. A very good place to start as far > as getting to know what this list is about. > > Bill Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > now, now, bill, no need to get defensive. btw, it wasnt advice, but reading her soul and recognising that she wasnt being nourished here. asked this question yesterday but no one (he-he) answered. so, since you " seem " to be here, what is the purpose of this board? at least what is your purpose here? you are here right? (gotta qualify these questions it seems) Fred, I am not expecting you to nourish my soul..(lol) The purpose of this board is to share... Because by doing so..there is more depth of understanding.. I try to stay focus in the teaching of Niz. because I find it most beneficial and have complete trust in That. > Patricia > > > > > > > - > > OConnor Patricia > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:41 AM > > RE: Stop the chatter > > > > > > I really like Pete`s message yesterday, " what is > > happening to so and so? " > > I appreciated the reminder that I am not here for tea > > and bridge but for meeting and sharing something > > infinitely precious. I`ve been getting headache lately > > at trying to stay put w/ the all the chattering and > > constant exercice of restless minds. There is no > > point of sharing anything unless it is deeply rooted > > in a day full of deep reverence toward what is most > > precious and alive in each one of us. The constant > > chatter of mind is what robs it of its very much > > needed space. > > Stop acting like Gods when you are only lost, stop > > covering your nakedness with repeated concepts over > > and over. > > Start with quietness, feed quietness, allow calm to > > prevail, land your ear to Life within you, give a rest > > to your mind and fingers, .... > > and then, one maybe ready to share something that > > springs from somewhere else than inflamed minds. > > Affection to all, > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez > les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 since you've never heard me sing the " enlightenment bill blues " (old nth dimension song) the answer would be, why yes have read some of it. and so my question stands, if you are interested in these teachings then why aren't you doing the teaching of what he taught. - billrishel Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:44 PM Re: it's a seinfeld board... aboard about nothing what is the purpose of this board? ~~~~~~ Check the home page of this site. That defines the purpose. This site is dedicated to studying the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj. Are you at all familiar with Nisargadatta's teachings, Fred? Bill Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > now, now, bill, no need to get defensive. btw, it wasnt advice, but reading her soul and recognising that she wasnt being nourished here. asked this question yesterday but no one (he-he) answered. so, since you " seem " to be here, what is the purpose of this board? at least what is your purpose here? you are here right? (gotta qualify these questions it seems) > - > billrishel > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:24 PM > Re: Stop the chatter > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > this is not meant with disrespect, have you considered the > possibility that this isn't the place for you and the exploration your on. > > Fred, are you kinda new here? > > If so, perhaps you don't know whereof you speak. > > But what you might indeed do is apply your advice > to yourself. A very good place to start as far > as getting to know what this list is about. > > > Bill > > > > > > > - > > OConnor Patricia > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:41 AM > > RE: Stop the chatter > > > > > > I really like Pete`s message yesterday, " what is > > happening to so and so? " > > I appreciated the reminder that I am not here for tea > > and bridge but for meeting and sharing something > > infinitely precious. I`ve been getting headache lately > > at trying to stay put w/ the all the chattering and > > constant exercice of restless minds. There is no > > point of sharing anything unless it is deeply rooted > > in a day full of deep reverence toward what is most > > precious and alive in each one of us. The constant > > chatter of mind is what robs it of its very much > > needed space. > > Stop acting like Gods when you are only lost, stop > > covering your nakedness with repeated concepts over > > and over. > > Start with quietness, feed quietness, allow calm to > > prevail, land your ear to Life within you, give a rest > > to your mind and fingers, .... > > and then, one maybe ready to share something that > > springs from somewhere else than inflamed minds. > > Affection to all, > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez > les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 wasn't trying to nourish your soul at all, was noticing that is wasn't being nourished. " staying focused in his teachings " might be a stop gap of sorts. just a thought, no need to get the illusion in an uproar. - OConnor Patricia Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:40 PM RE: Re: it's a seinfeld board... aboard about nothing --- billrishel <illusyn a écrit : what is the purpose of this board? ~~~~~~ Check the home page of this site. That defines the purpose. This site is dedicated to studying the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj. Are you at all familiar with Nisargadatta's teachings, Fred? Bill > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > this is not meant with disrespect, have you considered the > possibility that this isn't the place for you and the exploration your on. > > Fred, are you kinda new here? > > If so, perhaps you don't know whereof you speak. > > But what you might indeed do is apply your advice > to yourself. A very good place to start as far > as getting to know what this list is about. > > Bill Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > now, now, bill, no need to get defensive. btw, it wasnt advice, but reading her soul and recognising that she wasnt being nourished here. asked this question yesterday but no one (he-he) answered. so, since you " seem " to be here, what is the purpose of this board? at least what is your purpose here? you are here right? (gotta qualify these questions it seems) Fred, I am not expecting you to nourish my soul..(lol) The purpose of this board is to share... Because by doing so..there is more depth of understanding.. I try to stay focus in the teaching of Niz. because I find it most beneficial and have complete trust in That. > Patricia > > > > > > > - > > OConnor Patricia > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:41 AM > > RE: Stop the chatter > > > > > > I really like Pete`s message yesterday, " what is > > happening to so and so? " > > I appreciated the reminder that I am not here for tea > > and bridge but for meeting and sharing something > > infinitely precious. I`ve been getting headache lately > > at trying to stay put w/ the all the chattering and > > constant exercice of restless minds. There is no > > point of sharing anything unless it is deeply rooted > > in a day full of deep reverence toward what is most > > precious and alive in each one of us. The constant > > chatter of mind is what robs it of its very much > > needed space. > > Stop acting like Gods when you are only lost, stop > > covering your nakedness with repeated concepts over > > and over. > > Start with quietness, feed quietness, allow calm to > > prevail, land your ear to Life within you, give a rest > > to your mind and fingers, .... > > and then, one maybe ready to share something that > > springs from somewhere else than inflamed minds. > > Affection to all, > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez > les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Niz is rarely quoted here and ideas unique to his teachings rarely directly discussed, so what is occurring is not so much what was intended. It's not clear what is intended now. In a message dated 3/7/2006 10:55:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:44:17 -0000 " billrishel " <illusyn Re: it's a seinfeld board... aboard about nothing what is the purpose of this board? ~~~~~~ Check the home page of this site. That defines the purpose. This site is dedicated to studying the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj. Are you at all familiar with Nisargadatta's teachings, Fred? Bill Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > now, now, bill, no need to get defensive. btw, it wasnt advice, but reading her soul and recognising that she wasnt being nourished here. asked this question yesterday but no one (he-he) answered. so, since you " seem " to be here, what is the purpose of this board? at least what is your purpose here? you are here right? (gotta qualify these questions it seems) > ----- Original Message ----- > billrishel > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:24 PM > Re: Stop the chatter > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > this is not meant with disrespect, have you considered the > possibility that this isn't the place for you and the exploration your on. > > Fred, are you kinda new here? > > If so, perhaps you don't know whereof you speak. > > But what you might indeed do is apply your advice > to yourself. A very good place to start as far > as getting to know what this list is about. > > > Bill > > > > > > > - > > OConnor Patricia > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:41 AM > > RE: Stop the chatter > > > > > > I really like Pete`s message yesterday, " what is > > happening to so and so? " > > I appreciated the reminder that I am not here for tea > > and bridge but for meeting and sharing something > > infinitely precious. I`ve been getting headache lately > > at trying to stay put w/ the all the chattering and > > constant exercice of restless minds. There is no > > point of sharing anything unless it is deeply rooted > > in a day full of deep reverence toward what is most > > precious and alive in each one of us. The constant > > chatter of mind is what robs it of its very much > > needed space. > > Stop acting like Gods when you are only lost, stop > > covering your nakedness with repeated concepts over > > and over. > > Start with quietness, feed quietness, allow calm to > > prevail, land your ear to Life within you, give a rest > > to your mind and fingers, .... > > and then, one maybe ready to share something that > > springs from somewhere else than inflamed minds. > > Affection to all, > > Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 there's seems to be the inclination by the members that if others (meaning those who don't agree with their viewpoint) " stick with it " that clarity will arrive (or whatever they think enlightenment is). is seems rather pejorative (scrabble 19 pts.) " Pejorative " . Yes, very nice. So, basically, what you're saying is that most here believe they have accomplished something that they feel they should teach others? I believe there have been some accomplishments here, but wouldn't the inclination to teach this seem to imply that there is a need to reinforce their ego position? Either that, or they're just trying to be helpful. But if that were the case, it would be friendly rather than belligerant and there's not much friendliness goin on here really, so I'm goin with the first idea. As mentioned before, my sense here is that of circularity and stagnation. And seeing as how there were at least 300 posts today, we be running in circles at light speed here. So if all the above is true, mayhaps the stagnation results from a lack of humility; ego believing that is has a plan that's better than God's plan, so nobody ever really comes to new understandings. And it occurs to me that this is possibly the result of the understanding that there is no God as such. Ego then defers to nothing because nothing is all there is. Hmmm..... Well, it seems clear that the circularity occurs for two reasons. One is that positionalities are never surrendered. The other is that thinkingness is sneered at and 'looking within' seems to be virtually unknown, and so there's little chance of movement in the area of conceptualization and understanding. Okay, folks, does any of that sound like what's goin on here? Maybe I should ask if anybody cares......I guess the egos are gonna look for ways to crucify me, huh? Sorry guys, I don't have the time or the patience these days to play all the ego games, so there ya have it without all the window dressing. This is where we decide if it's time for God to win, or if we can hold him off a little longer. Is truth as important here as I think it is? In a message dated 3/7/2006 7:17:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 22:04:20 -0500 " Fred " <thejman Re: it's a seinfeld board... aboard about nothing there's seems to be the inclination by the members that if others (meaning those who don't agree with their viewpoint) " stick with it " that clarity will arrive (or whatever they think enlightenment is). is seems rather pejorative (scrabble 19 pts.) to say that this is the Truth since it's not " they " who decide this, at least not directly. if this was a 12 step program it might be said that whomever could get whatever through osmosis, and while there is some Truth to that, clearly looking at what we have on this board, me egoo thinks not. - ADHHUB Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:51 PM Re: it's a seinfeld board... aboard about nothing Niz is rarely quoted here and ideas unique to his teachings rarely directly discussed, so what is occurring is not so much what was intended. It's not clear what is intended now. In a message dated 3/7/2006 10:55:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:44:17 -0000 " billrishel " <illusyn Re: it's a seinfeld board... aboard about nothing what is the purpose of this board? ~~~~~~ Check the home page of this site. That defines the purpose. This site is dedicated to studying the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj. Are you at all familiar with Nisargadatta's teachings, Fred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 there's seems to be the inclination by the members that if others (meaning those who don't agree with their viewpoint) " stick with it " that clarity will arrive (or whatever they think enlightenment is). is seems rather pejorative (scrabble 19 pts.) to say that this is the Truth since it's not " they " who decide this, at least not directly. if this was a 12 step program it might be said that whomever could get whatever through osmosis, and while there is some Truth to that, clearly looking at what we have on this board, me egoo thinks not. - ADHHUB Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:51 PM Re: it's a seinfeld board... aboard about nothing Niz is rarely quoted here and ideas unique to his teachings rarely directly discussed, so what is occurring is not so much what was intended. It's not clear what is intended now. In a message dated 3/7/2006 10:55:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:44:17 -0000 " billrishel " <illusyn Re: it's a seinfeld board... aboard about nothing what is the purpose of this board? ~~~~~~ Check the home page of this site. That defines the purpose. This site is dedicated to studying the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj. Are you at all familiar with Nisargadatta's teachings, Fred? Bill Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > now, now, bill, no need to get defensive. btw, it wasnt advice, but reading her soul and recognising that she wasnt being nourished here. asked this question yesterday but no one (he-he) answered. so, since you " seem " to be here, what is the purpose of this board? at least what is your purpose here? you are here right? (gotta qualify these questions it seems) > ----- Original Message ----- > billrishel > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:24 PM > Re: Stop the chatter > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > this is not meant with disrespect, have you considered the > possibility that this isn't the place for you and the exploration your on. > > Fred, are you kinda new here? > > If so, perhaps you don't know whereof you speak. > > But what you might indeed do is apply your advice > to yourself. A very good place to start as far > as getting to know what this list is about. > > > Bill > > > > > > > - > > OConnor Patricia > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:41 AM > > RE: Stop the chatter > > > > > > I really like Pete`s message yesterday, " what is > > happening to so and so? " > > I appreciated the reminder that I am not here for tea > > and bridge but for meeting and sharing something > > infinitely precious. I`ve been getting headache lately > > at trying to stay put w/ the all the chattering and > > constant exercice of restless minds. There is no > > point of sharing anything unless it is deeply rooted > > in a day full of deep reverence toward what is most > > precious and alive in each one of us. The constant > > chatter of mind is what robs it of its very much > > needed space. > > Stop acting like Gods when you are only lost, stop > > covering your nakedness with repeated concepts over > > and over. > > Start with quietness, feed quietness, allow calm to > > prevail, land your ear to Life within you, give a rest > > to your mind and fingers, .... > > and then, one maybe ready to share something that > > springs from somewhere else than inflamed minds. > > Affection to all, > > Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > there's seems to be the inclination by the members that if others (meaning > those who don't agree with their viewpoint) " stick with it " that clarity will > arrive (or whatever they think enlightenment is). is seems rather pejorative > (scrabble 19 pts.) > > > " Pejorative " . Yes, very nice. > So, basically, what you're saying is that most here believe they have > accomplished something that they feel they should teach others? I believe there > have been some accomplishments here, but wouldn't the inclination to teach this > seem to imply that there is a need to reinforce their ego position? Either > that, or they're just trying to be helpful. But if that were the case, it would > be friendly rather than belligerant and there's not much friendliness goin on > here really, so I'm goin with the first idea. > > As mentioned before, my sense here is that of circularity and stagnation. > And seeing as how there were at least 300 posts today, we be running in circles > at light speed here. So if all the above is true, mayhaps the stagnation > results from a lack of humility; ego believing that is has a plan that's better > than God's plan, so nobody ever really comes to new understandings. And it > occurs to me that this is possibly the result of the understanding that there is > no God as such. Ego then defers to nothing because nothing is all there is. > Hmmm..... > > Well, it seems clear that the circularity occurs for two reasons. One is > that positionalities are never surrendered. The other is that thinkingness is > sneered at and 'looking within' seems to be virtually unknown, and so there's > little chance of movement in the area of conceptualization and understanding. > > Okay, folks, does any of that sound like what's goin on here? Maybe I should > ask if anybody cares......I guess the egos are gonna look for ways to > crucify me, huh? Sorry guys, I don't have the time or the patience these days to > play all the ego games, so there ya have it without all the window dressing. > This is where we decide if it's time for God to win, or if we can hold him off > a little longer. Is truth as important here as I think it is? ****************** " What is truth? " -- Pontius Pilate Once discovered, what does it matter? Life goes on in the Here and Now. " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 --- s_i_l_v_e_r1069 <silver-1069 a écrit : Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > there's seems to be the inclination by the members that if others (meaning > those who don't agree with their viewpoint) " stick with it " that clarity will > arrive (or whatever they think enlightenment is). is seems rather pejorative > (scrabble 19 pts.) > > > " Pejorative " . Yes, very nice. > So, basically, what you're saying is that most here believe they have > accomplished something that they feel they should teach others? I believe there > have been some accomplishments here, but wouldn't the inclination to teach this > seem to imply that there is a need to reinforce their ego position? Either > that, or they're just trying to be helpful. But if that were the case, it would > be friendly rather than belligerant and there's not much friendliness goin on > here really, so I'm goin with the first idea. > > As mentioned before, my sense here is that of circularity and stagnation. > And seeing as how there were at least 300 posts today, we be running in circles > at light speed here. So if all the above is true, mayhaps the stagnation > results from a lack of humility; ego believing that is has a plan that's better > than God's plan, so nobody ever really comes to new understandings. And it > occurs to me that this is possibly the result of the understanding that there is > no God as such. Ego then defers to nothing because nothing is all there is. > Hmmm..... > > Well, it seems clear that the circularity occurs for two reasons. One is > that positionalities are never surrendered. The other is that thinkingness is > sneered at and 'looking within' seems to be virtually unknown, and so there's > little chance of movement in the area of conceptualization and understanding. > > Okay, folks, does any of that sound like what's goin on here? Maybe I should > ask if anybody cares......I guess the egos are gonna look for ways to > crucify me, huh? Sorry guys, I don't have the time or the patience these days to > play all the ego games, so there ya have it without all the window dressing. > This is where we decide if it's time for God to win, or if we can hold him off > a little longer. Is truth as important here as I think it is? ****************** " What is truth? " -- Pontius Pilate Once discovered, what does it matter? Life goes on in the Here and Now. " Silver " >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Well put! You got my ear! Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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