Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 It does get tiresome with the Dharma Cops always ready to quibble about a word said. Perhaps we can put up on the wall a Nondual Taboo List. Funny how just-being-without-regard-to-guidelines (i.e. the Real Deal) gets supplanted by nothing-but- guidelines. But my sense is that we are coming to a major bifurcation point, and the time for painting with the broad brush is well neigh upon us. And the thunder in your words reinforces that sense... just as sense of a brewing Tumult in the Vastness is kindling in these bones. I am reading a biography of Beethoven, and was just reading how as he came to a completion of his first major " cycle " , where he had established mastery of the genres of Mozart and Haydn and then was ready for his great " leap beyond " ...it is as if he sensed very clearly the Imminence, what was to come, with all the preliminaries coming to orderly closure before... Just so I feel the imminence of a " breaking forth " of the Alchemy of Knowledge-Wisdom-Art [Ahh... *there's* something that can go up on the Nondual Taboo List!]. There is so much in the way of " little understandings " and " little realizations " that want to claim a know-it-all. Golly, some actually think that to arrive at " silent mind " is a big deal! There is really no end. It is not a boolean on/off, this so-called " self-realization " thing. Some seem to think that either you've got it or you don't. What they are really saying is that they have STOPPED! They have settled into a self- satisfied mini-nirvana, such as one person eloquently alluded when he wrote of " ... how the imperious designs of ego can quite easily usurp spiritual paradigms/notions and use them as a new fixative for self. " In my view no one is ever Done. There is always more to erase, there is always more to open up. Yes, being in the Now is even relative. It is not a boolean yes/no... this being in the Now. For example, I used to experience a continous no- thought with *flow*... day-in-day-out. But " flow " , even if in a very narrow timeframe, *does* require time to have a sense of. So relative to someone going around in their head going down their agendas all day, yeah I was *relatively* in the now. But boy did I have a ways to go! I have seen this kind of " upping the ante " enough times now to see that there is no end. One is never-ever Done. Hmmm... was that a rant? Naw.... I was just speakin' my mind! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 In a message dated 3/7/2006 5:32:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:39:28 -0000 " billrishel " <illusyn Kickin' Down a Few Doors It does get tiresome with the Dharma Cops always ready to quibble about a word said. Perhaps we can put up on the wall a Nondual Taboo List. Funny how just-being-without-regard-to-guidelines (i.e. the Real Deal) gets supplanted by nothing-but- guidelines. But my sense is that we are coming to a major bifurcation point, and the time for painting with the broad brush is well neigh upon us. And the thunder in your words reinforces that sense... just as sense of a brewing Tumult in the Vastness is kindling in these bones. I am reading a biography of Beethoven, and was just reading how as he came to a completion of his first major " cycle " , where he had established mastery of the genres of Mozart and Haydn and then was ready for his great " leap beyond " ...it is as if he sensed very clearly the Imminence, what was to come, with all the preliminaries coming to orderly closure before... Just so I feel the imminence of a " breaking forth " of the Alchemy of Knowledge-Wisdom-Art [Ahh... *there's* something that can go up on the Nondual Taboo List!]. There is so much in the way of " little understandings " and " little realizations " that want to claim a know-it-all. Golly, some actually think that to arrive at " silent mind " is a big deal! There is really no end. It is not a boolean on/off, this so-called " self-realization " thing. Some seem to think that either you've got it or you don't. What they are really saying is that they have STOPPED! They have settled into a self- satisfied mini-nirvana, such as one person eloquently alluded when he wrote of " ... how the imperious designs of ego can quite easily usurp spiritual paradigms/notions and use them as a new fixative for self. " In my view no one is ever Done. There is always more to erase, there is always more to open up. Yes, being in the Now is even relative. It is not a boolean yes/no... this being in the Now. For example, I used to experience a continous no- thought with *flow*... day-in-day-out. But " flow " , even if in a very narrow timeframe, *does* require time to have a sense of. So relative to someone going around in their head going down their agendas all day, yeah I was *relatively* in the now. But boy did I have a ways to go! I have seen this kind of " upping the ante " enough times now to see that there is no end. One is never-ever Done. Hmmm... was that a rant? Naw.... I was just speakin' my mind! Bill P: I think that was well said, Bill, and I agree. But my sense is that we are coming to a major bifurcation point Yes, I believe this is so. Mayhaps a good thing? Some seem to think that either you've got it or you don't. What they are really saying is that they have STOPPED! They have settled into a self- satisfied mini-nirvana P: Yes. Nis said " Pleasure puts you to sleep and pain wakes you up. If you don't want to suffer, don't go to sleep. " (Always liked that quote.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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