resistance to thought (((IPercpetion Without Thinkin

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In a message dated 3/7/2006 5:32:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:39:07 -0000

" billrishel " <illusyn

resistance to thought (((Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking

 

There is no perception without thought. It's only the

resistance to thought that keeps folks from noticing this. Perhaps it is

believed that God gave you a mind just to cause you trouble?

 

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Do you know " silent mind " ?

 

Can there be thought with silent-mind?

 

Perhaps I agree with you in essence here,

but is hard to know what you actually mean

without some clarification of terms. Hence

my questions.

 

 

 

Bill

 

PS: There is an excellent book on the subject

of thought by David Bohm called *Thought as a System*.

You might find it interesting in relation to

your topic here.

 

 

 

 

P: " Silent mind " is your concept, not mine. There is no such thing as a

silent mind. There is a state of no thoughts arising to conscious attention.

However, if you look deeper, you'll find the seeds out of which those

potentially

conscious thoughts can arise. There is always movement in the mind.

 

Between the time that you look at an object and when you can name it, a

massive amount of mental processing occurs that would put the fastest

supercomputer to shame. Spatial orientation, distance, size, movement, color,

texture,

each parameter measured and compared to countless samples in memory and

combined into a final profile of identification, all occurring in a split

second,

and without you're even consciously noticing it as long as you choose not to

notice. And that's just the analysis of data from one sense organ, of a single

object. If you find yourself walking along a path, the mental processing of

ever changing sense data and physical coordination is truly staggering, and

the mind finds this explosion of mentation peaceful. Possibly, it gives some

kind of hint as to what may be required to make the mentally created world

disappear.

 

Does that clarify my position a bit?