Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 what if there was nothing to talk about no one to see no one to hear no one to speak who would remain here? and who would be called? would there be a beating heart? Ana Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Sounds along the lines of Krishnamurti, Werner. > As in, the observer is the observed. > > Bill > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Yes Bill, > > > > Ultimatively all is Subjective. > > > > Consciousness is subjective, personal. When one looks at a tree it > > seems real but this reality of that tree it is created by a > > subjective brain. Therefore the tree represents one's subjectivity. > > > > All " real " objects are subjective and therefore it is justified to > > speak of a objectivity/subjectivity = the object is its subject. > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > To me, meaning, profound or otherwise, is assigned: > > > We give meaning to our own experiences. Nothing > > > objectively means anything. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > But ultimately all is Subjective. > > > > > > When dissolved into Now what is " objectivity " ? > > > > > > In a sense What Is/Now is the ultimate objective > > > and the ultimate subjective, both. > > > > > > But then the notion of meaning " as assignment " > > > is no more, not in Now. > > > > > > And consider this: meaning is the complete > > > absence of conflict. > > > > > > What I am getting at is that " deep meaning " > > > is not a *property* of something. It is inherent > > > in what is Real, in What Is. > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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