Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <annaruiz wrote: > > what if > there was nothing to talk about > no one to see > no one to hear > no one to speak > > who would remain here? > and who would be called? > > would there be a beating heart? > > > Ana would be the best place for a deep meditation.... Marc > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Sounds along the lines of Krishnamurti, Werner. > > As in, the observer is the observed. > > > > Bill > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes Bill, > > > > > > Ultimatively all is Subjective. > > > > > > Consciousness is subjective, personal. When one looks at a tree > it > > > seems real but this reality of that tree it is created by a > > > subjective brain. Therefore the tree represents one's > subjectivity. > > > > > > All " real " objects are subjective and therefore it is justified > to > > > speak of a objectivity/subjectivity = the object is its subject. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, meaning, profound or otherwise, is assigned: > > > > We give meaning to our own experiences. Nothing > > > > objectively means anything. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > But ultimately all is Subjective. > > > > > > > > When dissolved into Now what is " objectivity " ? > > > > > > > > In a sense What Is/Now is the ultimate objective > > > > and the ultimate subjective, both. > > > > > > > > But then the notion of meaning " as assignment " > > > > is no more, not in Now. > > > > > > > > And consider this: meaning is the complete > > > > absence of conflict. > > > > > > > > What I am getting at is that " deep meaning " > > > > is not a *property* of something. It is inherent > > > > in what is Real, in What Is. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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