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Fred:

meaning is... as it is. essence is the juice of life.

 

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Yes!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> billrishel

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:30 PM

> (((Re: Are you " not " ?

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> Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 3/7/2006 12:35:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> > Nisargadatta writes:

> >

> > Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:18:38 -0000

> > " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> > Meaning (((Re: Are you " not " ?

> >

> > i am....here....in this life-drama-play....

> > like you too....

> >

> > we exchange some words of no meaning.....before we go Home...

> >

> > again

> >

> > thats all

> >

> > Marc

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > reminds me of a Zen saying I read many years ago:

> >

> > Life... a quick rush for shelter...

> > and then the rains come.

> >

> > The saying and your remark both suggest that

> > to look for meaning in life is folly.

> >

> > But is the topic is meaning -- in the sense

> > of profound meaning -- a closed book?

> >

> > Regarding Deep Peace, for example...

> > there is something very meaningful in that,

> > in *some sense* at any rate...

> > but in *what* sense?

> >

> > That is very difficult to answer.

> >

> > It is as if profound meaning is utterly elusive,

> > ineffable.

> >

> > One can't really talk about Deep Peace much

> > beyond merely mentioning it... as if the

> > term is a mere pointer.

> >

> > Similarly with profound meaning.

> >

> > But just because something cannot be *explained*

> > doesn't mean it isn't.

> >

> > Deep Peace surely is.

> > And profound meaning as well.

> > It is just that they can't really be talked about,

> > but only alluded to.

> >

> > Ultimately what is Real does not submit to

> > hard scrutiny.

> >

> > Which is why " hard scrutiny " is not the measure of things.

> >

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To me, meaning, profound or otherwise, is assigned: We give meaning

> to our

> > own experiences. Nothing objectively means anything.

> >

>

> To me, meaning, profound or otherwise, is assigned:

> We give meaning to our own experiences. Nothing

> objectively means anything.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~

>

> But ultimately all is Subjective.

>

> When dissolved into Now what is " objectivity " ?

>

> In a sense What Is/Now is the ultimate objective

> and the ultimate subjective, both.

>

> But then the notion of meaning " as assignment "

> is no more, not in Now.

>

> And consider this: meaning is the complete

> absence of conflict.

>

> What I am getting at is that " deep meaning "

> is not a *property* of something. It is inherent

> in what is Real, in What Is.

>

>

> Bill

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