Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 In a message dated 3/8/2006 8:10:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:26:29 -0000 " billrishel " <illusyn (((Re: Are you " not " ? Fred: meaning is... as it is. essence is the juice of life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes!!!!!!!!!! Communication may have occurred! Hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 In a message dated 3/8/2006 8:10:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:34:33 -0000 " billrishel " <illusyn (((Re: Are you " not " ? B: But then the notion of meaning " as assignment " > is no more, not in Now. > P: Ego is still present. Meaning is still assigned. Being present in the > moment doesn't make ego go away, it just allows ego to be present. B: Then what you mean by being present in the moment is not the same as what I mean. When I say " totally immersed in the Now " I mean there is no sense of inside/outside, no sense of within, no *sense* of any distinction, and that every particle of awareness is sparkling with life. P: Yes. Did 'you' have this experience? How do 'you' know 'you' had this experience? Do you recall that it was a 'good' thing at the time that you were experiencing it? Does this mean that it meant something? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/7/2006 11:35:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:30:33 -0000 > " billrishel " <illusyn > (((Re: Are you " not " ? > > > > P: To me, meaning, profound or otherwise, is assigned: > We give meaning to our own experiences. Nothing > objectively means anything. > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > B: But ultimately all is Subjective. > > When dissolved into Now what is " objectivity " ? > > > P: We're saying the same thing, yes? > > > B: In a sense What Is/Now is the ultimate objective > and the ultimate subjective, both. > > > P: From the perspective of ego, yes. The objective is illusion, eh? whatever is from the perspective of ego is illusion. > > B: But then the notion of meaning " as assignment " > is no more, not in Now. > > > > P: Ego is still present. Meaning is still assigned. Being present in the > moment doesn't make ego go away, it just allows ego to be present. Then what you mean by being present in the moment is not the same as what I mean. When I say " totally immersed in the Now " I mean there is no sense of inside/outside, no sense of within, no *sense* of any distinction, and that every particle of awareness is sparkling with life. Bill > > B: And consider this: meaning is the complete > absence of conflict. > > What I am getting at is that " deep meaning " > is not a *property* of something. It is inherent > in what is Real, in What Is. > > > P: I see no meaning but that which I, as ego, assign. This occurs whether or > not there is conflict. It's in the nature of subjective experience. > > Phil > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 for most of ole diablo's karmic invention (life) the k-energy has always been just about at the crown chakra. it's funny, when bill gets it the energy shoots out the top and floods Truth with Truth. - ADHHUB Nisargadatta Thursday, March 09, 2006 12:33 AM Re: (((Re: Are you " not " ? In a message dated 3/8/2006 8:10:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:26:29 -0000 " billrishel " <illusyn (((Re: Are you " not " ? Fred: meaning is... as it is. essence is the juice of life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes!!!!!!!!!! Communication may have occurred! Hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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