Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/8/2006 7:43:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:36:41 -0000 > " billrishel " <illusyn > Silly ego game #3 (((Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/7/2006 5:32:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:31:48 -0000 > > " billrishel " <illusyn@> > > Silly ego game #3 (((Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking > > > > Silly ego game #3 is where we learn to consistently bring ourselves > to a > > state of peace in meditation, and then believe that we've accomplished > > something > > almost no human has ever been able to do before. Hehe. Since this > has no > > relationship to noticing the truth of our ego dynamics, those dynamics > > continue > > all during our non-meditating time. In order to pretend that this > > isn't so, we > > elevate ourselves above others and project our thinkingness and > struggle > > onto them, all the while hiding behind the obscurity of our own words > > so that > > nobody can be clear enough about what we're saying to really be > able to > > challenge us. > > > > ~~~~~ > > B: > > A couple of questions, Phil: > > Do you consider the " ego " to actually exist, or to only > > " appear " to exist? > > > > > > > > P: Thoughts. Do you imply that it can therefore be ignored? > > B: > > What needs to be *attended to* if everything happens > of its own nature? When immersed in the Now there is > no " problem " . > > A sign of " immersed in the Now " is *sparkle*/life. > > > > P: When " immersed in the Now " , is this the same as knowing who you ARE? > > > > P: But " noticing " as something that is a " self-observation " > is not in the Now (my view) as it requires time to occur. > P: It doesn't require time to notice. Noticing occurs in the timeless moment of now, because it doesn't require thought. It occurs as a flash of awareness. What requires time is the getting the hell out of the way so that this can occur. Phil >>>>>>>>>>>> Noticing isn't noticing without a *recognition* of what is noticed. That's more than one step right there, therefore time. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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