Lord & Free Will

March 9, 2006

Q) If everything is according to the will of the Lord, who is the overall

controller, there is no independence for any human being in this world. In such

case the human being should not receive the fruits of its actions. How do you

justify this?

Ans) The Lord is controlling all the souls as per Veda “Aatmeshwaram”, which

means that all the souls are ruled by the Lord. Gita also says the same

“Bhuthanaam Eeswarah”. But this does not mean that there is no independence for

the soul. When the king rules the kingdom, all the people in that kingdom are

independent in their activities, but they are within the rules of the king. Thus

a short span of independence in the human life exists under the control and

supervision of the Lord. A cat caught a rat by its jaws. It leaves the rat after

a bite for a short span of time. In that span the rat gets independence and runs

in any side as it likes. But the cat is watching the rat and catches it again

whenever the rat is out of the limits of the supervision. Similarly the Lord

called “Kaala” (death) catches a human being and bites. The bite is the illness

of the human being. The repeated diseases are the repeated bites of the ‘Kaala”

or the Lord.

During the bite the rat looses completely its independence. Similarly any

human being, which is attacked by the disease becomes a patient and looses its

independence completely. The cat plays with the rat for sometime like this and

finally swallowes the rat. Similarly, the human being is swallowed by the Lord

at the end. The whole creation itself is like a rat for the cat like Lord, which

is told in Brahmasutra “Atta Charaachara Grahanaat”. Thus the short span of

independence of human beings under the supervision of the overall controlling

Lord, creates the full game and entertainment for the Lord.

The entertainment is the basic reason of the creation by the Lord as said in

Veda (Ekaaki Na Ramate) and as said in Brahmasutra (Lokavattu). Within the

limits of the supervision of the cat, the rat will receive the result of the

direction in which it runs. In one direction there may be fire and the rat may

receive the heat. In another direction there may be cold water and the rat will

receive the coolness in that direction. The rat is independent to receive the

result of the direction and has full independence to go in any direction. The

final death of the rat shows that the rat is under the control of the cat during

its choice of direction also, which is not interfered by the cat. Similarly the

human life is with full of independence but the final end proves that the

independence is under the control of the Lord. Yet, since there was no

interference of the Lord during the human life, the human being receives the

results according to its actions. Thus the “whole game is perfectly

justified in any angle”.

at the lotus of shri datta swami

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March 9, 2006

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000

wrote:

>

> Q) If everything is according to the will of the Lord, who is the

overall controller, there is no independence for any human being in

this world. In such case the human being should not receive the

fruits of its actions. How do you justify this?

>

> Ans) The Lord is controlling all the souls as per

Veda " Aatmeshwaram " , which means that all the souls are ruled by the

Lord. Gita also says the same " Bhuthanaam Eeswarah " . But this does

not mean that there is no independence for the soul. When the king

rules the kingdom, all the people in that kingdom are independent in

their activities, but they are within the rules of the king. Thus a

short span of independence in the human life exists under the control

and supervision of the Lord. A cat caught a rat by its jaws. It

leaves the rat after a bite for a short span of time. In that span

the rat gets independence and runs in any side as it likes. But the

cat is watching the rat and catches it again whenever the rat is out

of the limits of the supervision. Similarly the Lord called " Kaala "

(death) catches a human being and bites. The bite is the illness of

the human being. The repeated diseases are the repeated bites of

the `Kaala " or the Lord.

>

> During the bite the rat looses completely its independence.

Similarly any human being, which is attacked by the disease becomes a

patient and looses its independence completely. The cat plays with

the rat for sometime like this and finally swallowes the rat.

Similarly, the human being is swallowed by the Lord at the end. The

whole creation itself is like a rat for the cat like Lord, which is

told in Brahmasutra " Atta Charaachara Grahanaat " . Thus the short span

of independence of human beings under the supervision of the overall

controlling Lord, creates the full game and entertainment for the

Lord.

>

> The entertainment is the basic reason of the creation by the Lord

as said in Veda (Ekaaki Na Ramate) and as said in Brahmasutra

(Lokavattu). Within the limits of the supervision of the cat, the rat

will receive the result of the direction in which it runs. In one

direction there may be fire and the rat may receive the heat. In

another direction there may be cold water and the rat will receive

the coolness in that direction. The rat is independent to receive the

result of the direction and has full independence to go in any

direction. The final death of the rat shows that the rat is under the

control of the cat during its choice of direction also, which is not

interfered by the cat. Similarly the human life is with full of

independence but the final end proves that the independence is under

the control of the Lord. Yet, since there was no interference of the

Lord during the human life, the human being receives the results

according to its actions. Thus the " whole game is perfectly

> justified in any angle " .

>

> at the lotus of shri datta swami

> surya

> www.universal-spirituality.org

>

> poor rat....

wouldn't it be possible to modify the rat....by some genetic

manipualtions?....

so that the rat ...one day.....would resist the bite of the cat....?

i think that this would be a serious point for the scientifics....to

Think about....and so, to bring in value.....all of their brilliant

intelligence......to get out of the misery situation of this

poor " rat "

Marc

Ps: what is the genetic consistence of " God " ?

lol

March 9, 2006

beyond the teachings of shri datta swami surya:

" since there was no interference of the Lord during the human life "

it is impossible for there to be interference when one is the Lord. there is no

interference since they are one and the same. the use of the word interference

shows this teaching to be a conceptual understanding only and not directly

experienced.

-

prakki surya

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:59 AM