Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:00 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > Re: Digest Number 2493 > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: >> >> >> In a message dated 3/8/2006 8:10:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> Nisargadatta writes: >> >> Wed, 8 Mar 2006 19:53:38 -0800 >> Pete S <pedsie5 >> Re: Digest Number 2493 >> >> >> On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Nisargadatta wrote: >> >>> Do you really think such a dry, analytical response is worthy of > the >>> insightful mind you've been given? >>> >>> Phil >>> >> >> P: LOL, Phil! What other response do you suggest to a math topic? >> >> One full of poetry and emotion? I know in theses spiritual lists >> mixing emotion, fantasy, and a dash of scientific knowledge >> such as quantum physics, string theories, or hologram metaphors >> is considered wise, and very New Age, but it is not an aid to >> liberation. >> >> Throughout all discussion there persists the feeling that at the > root of mathematics there lay a mystery, reaching far deeper than > anything attained through the senses. Sad is the estate of anyone who > has not realized this profound assurance of truth in studying pure > mathematics, and is at a level whereat they hold belief that > mathematics is solely derived from the facts of the external world by > mere abstraction. And further to this, if anyone has not a high > enough degree of contact with Vedantist or Buddhist phases of > oriental thought to be assured of the peculiarly decisive evidence of > transendental thought, than a dry elucidation of the matter is indeed > the only way available for responding to questions regarding the > disciplines.On the other hand, as a factor that can act in a sort of > negative sense, the various philosophies that repudiate the actuality > of any deeper sense in mathematics or transendental/mystical reality > can have the effect of barrenness, which should leave them far from > satisfactory. From my studies of the dialectical and polemic > processes of the various western schools of thought, there is found > an inadequateness for supplying the completely satisfactory solution > that, while affording the appropriate recognition of the needs of > experience and of reason, at the same time leave unsatisfied the > hunger for assurance and depth.As an aid to liberation therefore both > the path of reason and the path of nirvana do comingle in an > astonishingly pleasantly harmonic and poetical way. No need to make > life study a drab affair!.............bn > >> P: Excellent, Bob! I do agree. The mystery never fades. Bliss is to accept it, to surrender to it. Poetry is great, reason is great. Both are very useful, if we learn to discern which is which, and use them accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:00 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > > > Re: Digest Number 2493 > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 3/8/2006 8:10:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >> Nisargadatta writes: > >> > >> Wed, 8 Mar 2006 19:53:38 -0800 > >> Pete S <pedsie5@> > >> Re: Digest Number 2493 > >> > >> > >> On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Nisargadatta wrote: > >> > >>> Do you really think such a dry, analytical response is worthy of > > the > >>> insightful mind you've been given? > >>> > >>> Phil > >>> > >> > >> P: LOL, Phil! What other response do you suggest to a math topic? > >> > >> One full of poetry and emotion? I know in theses spiritual lists > >> mixing emotion, fantasy, and a dash of scientific knowledge > >> such as quantum physics, string theories, or hologram metaphors > >> is considered wise, and very New Age, but it is not an aid to > >> liberation. > >> > >> Throughout all discussion there persists the feeling that at the > > root of mathematics there lay a mystery, reaching far deeper than > > anything attained through the senses. Sad is the estate of anyone who > > has not realized this profound assurance of truth in studying pure > > mathematics, and is at a level whereat they hold belief that > > mathematics is solely derived from the facts of the external world by > > mere abstraction. And further to this, if anyone has not a high > > enough degree of contact with Vedantist or Buddhist phases of > > oriental thought to be assured of the peculiarly decisive evidence of > > transendental thought, than a dry elucidation of the matter is indeed > > the only way available for responding to questions regarding the > > disciplines.On the other hand, as a factor that can act in a sort of > > negative sense, the various philosophies that repudiate the actuality > > of any deeper sense in mathematics or transendental/mystical reality > > can have the effect of barrenness, which should leave them far from > > satisfactory. From my studies of the dialectical and polemic > > processes of the various western schools of thought, there is found > > an inadequateness for supplying the completely satisfactory solution > > that, while affording the appropriate recognition of the needs of > > experience and of reason, at the same time leave unsatisfied the > > hunger for assurance and depth.As an aid to liberation therefore both > > the path of reason and the path of nirvana do comingle in an > > astonishingly pleasantly harmonic and poetical way. No need to make > > life study a drab affair!.............bn > > > >> > > > P: Excellent, Bob! I do agree. The mystery never fades. > Bliss is to accept it, to surrender to it. Poetry is great, > reason is great. Both are very useful, if we learn to > discern which is which, and use them accordingly. > Yes.....There is a government help line for just that....open 24 hours a day. Would you like the number? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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