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In a message dated 3/10/2006 12:44:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:13:21 -0000

" billrishel " <illusyn

Quiet Mind, Simple Mind

 

 

When we are aware of ourselves, is not the whole movement of

living a way of uncovering the " me, " the ego, the self? The self

is a very complex process which can be uncovered only in

relationship, in our daily activities, in the way we talk, the

way we judge, calculate, the way we condemn others and ourselves.

All that reveals the conditioned state of our own thinking, and

is it not important to be aware of this whole process? It is only

through awareness of what is true from moment to moment that

there is discovery of the timeless, the eternal. Without self-

knowledge, the eternal cannot be. When we do not know ourselves,

the eternal becomes a mere word, a symbol, a speculation, a

dogma, a belief, an illusion to which the mind can escape. But if

one begins to understand the " me " in all its various activities

from day to day, then in that very understanding, without any

effort, the nameless, the timeless comes into being. But the

timeless is not a reward for self-knowledge. That which is

eternal cannot be sought after; the mind cannot acquire it. It

comes into being when the mind is quiet, and the mind can be

quiet only when it is simple, when it is no longer storing up,

condemning, judging, weighing. It is only the simple mind that

can understand the real, not the mind that is full of words,

knowledge, information. The mind that analyzes, calculates, is

not a simple mind.

 

J. Krishnamurti, *The Book of Life*

 

 

 

Yes, I say this, though not so clearly, to lots of folks, but I rarely get

agreement. Looking for God or shutting down the mind are the popular options.

Looking at ego is the single most unpopular activity for those on a spiritual

path, but if the nonsense isn't exposed, the rest of the path is full of

endless traps. Everything will be put to the service of ego in the most

creative

and devious ways imaginable. One of those traps, BTW, might be the mantra

that ego doesn't exist. (Not suggesting that anyone saying that is in a trap.

It

depends on whether the work has been done.)

 

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

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When we are aware of ourselves, is not the whole movement of

living a way of uncovering the " me, " the ego, the self? The self

is a very complex process which can be uncovered only in

relationship, in our daily activities, in the way we talk, the

way we judge, calculate, the way we condemn others and ourselves.

All that reveals the conditioned state of our own thinking, and

is it not important to be aware of this whole process? It is only

through awareness of what is true from moment to moment that

there is discovery of the timeless, the eternal. Without self-

knowledge, the eternal cannot be. When we do not know ourselves,

the eternal becomes a mere word, a symbol, a speculation, a

dogma, a belief, an illusion to which the mind can escape. But if

one begins to understand the " me " in all its various activities

from day to day, then in that very understanding, without any

effort, the nameless, the timeless comes into being. But the

timeless is not a reward for self-knowledge. That which is

eternal cannot be sought after; the mind cannot acquire it. It

comes into being when the mind is quiet, and the mind can be

quiet only when it is simple, when it is no longer storing up,

condemning, judging, weighing. It is only the simple mind that

can understand the real, not the mind that is full of words,

knowledge, information. The mind that analyzes, calculates, is

not a simple mind.

 

J. Krishnamurti, *The Book of Life*

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote:

>

>

> When we are aware of ourselves, is not the whole movement of

> living a way of uncovering the " me, " the ego, the self? The self

> is a very complex process which can be uncovered only in

> relationship, in our daily activities, in the way we talk, the

> way we judge, calculate, the way we condemn others and ourselves.

> All that reveals the conditioned state of our own thinking, and

> is it not important to be aware of this whole process? It is only

> through awareness of what is true from moment to moment that

> there is discovery of the timeless, the eternal. Without self-

> knowledge, the eternal cannot be. When we do not know ourselves,

> the eternal becomes a mere word, a symbol, a speculation, a

> dogma, a belief, an illusion to which the mind can escape. But if

> one begins to understand the " me " in all its various activities

> from day to day, then in that very understanding, without any

> effort, the nameless, the timeless comes into being. But the

> timeless is not a reward for self-knowledge. That which is

> eternal cannot be sought after; the mind cannot acquire it. It

> comes into being when the mind is quiet, and the mind can be

> quiet only when it is simple, when it is no longer storing up,

> condemning, judging, weighing. It is only the simple mind that

> can understand the real, not the mind that is full of words,

> knowledge, information. The mind that analyzes, calculates, is

> not a simple mind.

>

> J. Krishnamurti, *The Book of Life*

>

 

yes....nice words....thank you

 

the mind-slaves can all go Home ....

 

now...

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 3/10/2006 12:44:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> Nisargadatta writes:

>

> Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:13:21 -0000

> " billrishel " <illusyn

> Quiet Mind, Simple Mind

>

>

> When we are aware of ourselves, is not the whole movement of

> living a way of uncovering the " me, " the ego, the self? The self

> is a very complex process which can be uncovered only in

> relationship, in our daily activities, in the way we talk, the

> way we judge, calculate, the way we condemn others and ourselves.

> All that reveals the conditioned state of our own thinking, and

> is it not important to be aware of this whole process? It is only

> through awareness of what is true from moment to moment that

> there is discovery of the timeless, the eternal. Without self-

> knowledge, the eternal cannot be. When we do not know ourselves,

> the eternal becomes a mere word, a symbol, a speculation, a

> dogma, a belief, an illusion to which the mind can escape. But if

> one begins to understand the " me " in all its various activities

> from day to day, then in that very understanding, without any

> effort, the nameless, the timeless comes into being. But the

> timeless is not a reward for self-knowledge. That which is

> eternal cannot be sought after; the mind cannot acquire it. It

> comes into being when the mind is quiet, and the mind can be

> quiet only when it is simple, when it is no longer storing up,

> condemning, judging, weighing. It is only the simple mind that

> can understand the real, not the mind that is full of words,

> knowledge, information. The mind that analyzes, calculates, is

> not a simple mind.

>

> J. Krishnamurti, *The Book of Life*

>

>

>

> Yes, I say this, though not so clearly, to lots of folks, but I

rarely get

> agreement. Looking for God or shutting down the mind are the

popular options.

> Looking at ego is the single most unpopular activity for those on a

spiritual

> path, but if the nonsense isn't exposed, the rest of the path is

full of

> endless traps. Everything will be put to the service of ego in the

most creative

> and devious ways imaginable. One of those traps, BTW, might be the

mantra

> that ego doesn't exist. (Not suggesting that anyone saying that is

in a trap. It

> depends on whether the work has been done.)

>

>

> Phil

>

>

>

> don't worry Phil....

 

the " ones " who's Mantra is " there is no ego " .....

have the principal roles....in the life-drama-dream-play....

 

titled " who the hell I am? "

 

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 3/10/2006 12:44:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> Nisargadatta writes:

>

> Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:13:21 -0000

> " billrishel " <illusyn

> Quiet Mind, Simple Mind

>

>

> When we are aware of ourselves, is not the whole movement of

> living a way of uncovering the " me, " the ego, the self? The self

> is a very complex process which can be uncovered only in

> relationship, in our daily activities, in the way we talk, the

> way we judge, calculate, the way we condemn others and ourselves.

> All that reveals the conditioned state of our own thinking, and

> is it not important to be aware of this whole process? It is only

> through awareness of what is true from moment to moment that

> there is discovery of the timeless, the eternal. Without self-

> knowledge, the eternal cannot be. When we do not know ourselves,

> the eternal becomes a mere word, a symbol, a speculation, a

> dogma, a belief, an illusion to which the mind can escape. But if

> one begins to understand the " me " in all its various activities

> from day to day, then in that very understanding, without any

> effort, the nameless, the timeless comes into being. But the

> timeless is not a reward for self-knowledge. That which is

> eternal cannot be sought after; the mind cannot acquire it. It

> comes into being when the mind is quiet, and the mind can be

> quiet only when it is simple, when it is no longer storing up,

> condemning, judging, weighing. It is only the simple mind that

> can understand the real, not the mind that is full of words,

> knowledge, information. The mind that analyzes, calculates, is

> not a simple mind.

>

> J. Krishnamurti, *The Book of Life*

>

>

>

> Yes, I say this, though not so clearly, to lots of folks, but I

rarely get

> agreement. Looking for God or shutting down the mind are the

popular options.

> Looking at ego is the single most unpopular activity for those on

a spiritual

> path, but if the nonsense isn't exposed, the rest of the path is

full of

> endless traps. Everything will be put to the service of ego in

the most creative

> and devious ways imaginable. One of those traps, BTW, might be

the mantra

> that ego doesn't exist. (Not suggesting that anyone saying that

is in a trap. It

> depends on whether the work has been done.)

>

>

> Phil

 

 

True.

 

len

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Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 3/10/2006 12:44:40 AM Pacific

Standard Time,

> Nisargadatta writes:

>

> Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:13:21 -0000

> " billrishel " <illusyn

> Quiet Mind, Simple Mind

>

>

> When we are aware of ourselves, is not the whole

movement of

> living a way of uncovering the " me, " the ego, the

self? The self

> is a very complex process which can be uncovered

only in

> relationship, in our daily activities, in the way

we talk, the

> way we judge, calculate, the way we condemn others

and ourselves.

> All that reveals the conditioned state of our own

thinking, and

> is it not important to be aware of this whole

process? It is only

> through awareness of what is true from moment to

moment that

> there is discovery of the timeless, the eternal.

Without self-

> knowledge, the eternal cannot be. When we do not

know ourselves,

> the eternal becomes a mere word, a symbol, a

speculation, a

> dogma, a belief, an illusion to which the mind can

escape. But if

> one begins to understand the " me " in all its

various activities

> from day to day, then in that very understanding,

without any

> effort, the nameless, the timeless comes into being.

But the

> timeless is not a reward for self-knowledge. That

which is

> eternal cannot be sought after; the mind cannot

acquire it. It

> comes into being when the mind is quiet, and the

mind can be

> quiet only when it is simple, when it is no longer

storing up,

> condemning, judging, weighing. It is only the

simple mind that

> can understand the real, not the mind that is full

of words,

> knowledge, information. The mind that analyzes,

calculates, is

> not a simple mind.

>

> J. Krishnamurti, *The Book of Life*

>

>

>

> Yes, I say this, though not so clearly, to lots of

folks, but I

rarely get

> agreement. Looking for God or shutting down the mind

are the

popular options.

> Looking at ego is the single most unpopular activity

for those on

a spiritual

> path, but if the nonsense isn't exposed, the rest of

the path is

full of

> endless traps. Everything will be put to the

service of ego in

the most creative

> and devious ways imaginable. One of those traps,

BTW, might be

the mantra

> that ego doesn't exist. (Not suggesting that anyone

saying that

is in a trap. It

> depends on whether the work has been done.)

>

>

> Phil

 

 

True.

 

len

 

Hey, way to go!

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

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