Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:12:13 -0000 " lissbon2002 " <_lissbon2002_ (lissbon2002) > Re: Summary of spirituality. _Nisargadatta _ (Nisargadatta ) , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > - Are you Happy? > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > OK. First answer would usually be: Because I often cannot get what I want. What´s next? Len Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? Would you be happy then? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > - Are you Happy? > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > Through ages... as well as today... many have stumbled upon a SPACE where all problems, all miseries, all sadness, all suffering have seemed to have disappeared! They have tried to *capture* it, they have tried to make a 'recipe' out of it, they have tried to make it into a formula, an equation, they have tried to make it into a reliably replicable theory so that it can be distributed and replicated! That has given rise to the terms like *enlightenment* and that has given rise to the most of " spirituality " ! Yet, formulating it is not easy. Sometimes, the very effort of intellectualizing and formulating it... gives rise to the 'misery' that was never there! Analyzing this *happiness* is quite arduous and requires simultaneous multi-dimensional thinking and doing this take some energy away from the abiding happiness! .... Yet, analyzing it, formulating it is indeed Very Important! Because, this is what make it really 'transferable' and reproducible. Analyzing and formulating it is what makes it 'scientific'! .... Spiritual investigation is about understanding the causes of 'misery'! Spiritual teaching is about explaining the causes, method, condition and way of uncaused eternal Happiness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 There are days when the Beauty of This is too much to hold in my eyes and tears of joy flow There are days when the Pain of This is too much to hold in my eyes and tears of sorrow flow These are the days these are the ways and This Is My Beloved appearing... ....tears on My Original Face.. love 'U', Ana Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > - Are you Happy? > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > - Are you Happy? > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > OK. First answer would usually be: Because I often cannot get what I want. What´s next? Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > - Are you Happy? > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > OK. First answer would usually be: Because I often cannot get what I want. What´s next? Len Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? Would you be happy then? Phil This is a summary that works for me : Fully enjoy the moment. I mean FULLY.. Give it all to the moment..and there is no where else to go. Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:12:13 -0000 > " lissbon2002 " <_lissbon2002_ > (lissbon2002) > > Re: Summary of spirituality. > > _Nisargadatta _ (Nisargadatta ) , > " Arvind " <adithya_comming@> > wrote: > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > > > - Are you Happy? > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > What´s next? > > Len > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? Would you be happy then? > > Phil > > There would still be a you........whose desire is for nothing. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 > sentences: > > > > - Are you Happy? > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > What´s next? > > Len > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? > Would you be happy then? > > Phil > This is a summary that works for me : > Fully enjoy the moment. I mean FULLY.. > Give it all to the moment..and there is no where else > to go. > Patricia > Any attempt to 'fully enjoy the moment' will fail. (all attempts to change an illusory condition fail)..... How does one know for sure if they are fully enjoying anything? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 > sentences: > > > > - Are you Happy? > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > What´s next? > > Len > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? > Would you be happy then? > > Phil >.......................................... This is a summary that works for me : > Fully enjoy the moment. I mean FULLY.. > Give it all to the moment..and there is no where else > to go. > Patricia there is no how in the moment, my dearest. > Any attempt to 'fully enjoy the moment' will fail. (all attempts to change an illusory condition fail)..... How does one know for sure if they are fully enjoying anything? toombaru .............................................. there is no how in the moment, my dearest. And there can be no attempt either, it only takes diving. Divine diving to you of you dare! Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 > > sentences: > > > > > > - Are you Happy? > > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > > > What´s next? > > > > Len > > > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? > > Would you be happy then? > > > > Phil > >.......................................... > > This is a summary that works for me : > > Fully enjoy the moment. I mean FULLY.. > > Give it all to the moment..and there is no where > else > > to go. > > Patricia > > there is no how in the moment, my dearest. > > > > > > > Any attempt to 'fully enjoy the moment' will fail. > > (all attempts to change an illusory condition > fail)..... > > How does one know for sure if they are fully enjoying > anything? > > toombaru > ............................................. > there is no how in the moment, my dearest. > And there can be no attempt either, it only takes > diving. > Divine diving to you of you dare! > Patricia > > > I'm having a little trouble with this. The moment...the enjoyer and the enjoyed...........are one. It cannot be more then it is. (words fail) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 > > sentences: > > > > > > - Are you Happy? > > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > > > What´s next? > > > > Len > > > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? > > Would you be happy then? > > > > Phil > >.......................................... > > This is a summary that works for me : > > Fully enjoy the moment. I mean FULLY.. > > Give it all to the moment..and there is no where > else > > to go. > > Patricia > > there is no how in the moment, my dearest. > > > > > > > Any attempt to 'fully enjoy the moment' will fail. > > (all attempts to change an illusory condition > fail)..... > > How does one know for sure if they are fully enjoying > anything? > > toombaru > ............................................. > there is no how in the moment, my dearest. > And there can be no attempt either, it only takes > diving. > Divine diving to you of you dare! > Patricia > > > I'm having a little trouble with this. The moment...the enjoyer and the enjoyed...........are one. It cannot be more then it is. (words fail) toombaru Words failed?? Good for you Toom. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 > > I'm having a little trouble with this. > > > The moment...the enjoyer and the enjoyed...........are > one. > > It cannot be more then it is. > > > (words fail) > > > > toombaru > > Words failed?? Good for you Toom. > Patricia > > :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 In a message dated 3/11/2006 2:20:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:56:15 +0100 (CET) OConnor Patricia <gdtige Re: Summary of spirituality. > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > - Are you Happy? > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > OK. First answer would usually be: Because I often cannot get what I want. What´s next? Len Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? Would you be happy then? Phil This is a summary that works for me : Fully enjoy the moment. I mean FULLY.. Give it all to the moment..and there is no where else to go. Patricia Yeah, I like that. That's acceptance of what is. Works for me too. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 In a message dated 3/11/2006 2:20:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:49:01 -0000 " toombaru2006 " <lastrain Re: Summary of spirituality. Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 > > sentences: > > > > > > - Are you Happy? > > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > > > What´s next? > > > > Len > > > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? > > Would you be happy then? > > > > Phil > >.......................................... > > This is a summary that works for me : > > Fully enjoy the moment. I mean FULLY.. > > Give it all to the moment..and there is no where > else > > to go. > > Patricia > > there is no how in the moment, my dearest. > > > > > > > Any attempt to 'fully enjoy the moment' will fail. > > (all attempts to change an illusory condition > fail)..... > > How does one know for sure if they are fully enjoying > anything? > > toombaru > ............................................. > there is no how in the moment, my dearest. > And there can be no attempt either, it only takes > diving. > Divine diving to you of you dare! > Patricia > > > I'm having a little trouble with this. The moment...the enjoyer and the enjoyed...........are one. It cannot be more then it is. (words fail) toombaru Maybe it stops being what it isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/11/2006 2:20:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:56:15 +0100 (CET) > OConnor Patricia <gdtige > Re: Summary of spirituality. > > > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 > sentences: > > > > - Are you Happy? > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > What´s next? > > Len > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? > Would you be happy then? > > Phil > This is a summary that works for me : > Fully enjoy the moment. I mean FULLY.. > Give it all to the moment..and there is no where else > to go. > Patricia > > > > Yeah, I like that. That's acceptance of what is. Works for me too. > > Phil > > Accepting what is ....isn't. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:12:13 -0000 > " lissbon2002 " <_lissbon2002_ > (lissbon2002) > > Re: Summary of spirituality. > > _Nisargadatta _ (Nisargadatta ) , > " Arvind " <adithya_comming@> > wrote: > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > > > - Are you Happy? > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > What´s next? > > Len > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? Would you be happy then? > > Phil Hypothetical question cannot be answered unless through imagination. Next question: Is it possible not to get what I want and still be happy? How do I do that? Len Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:12:13 -0000 > > " lissbon2002 " <_lissbon2002@_ > > (lissbon2002@) > > > Re: Summary of spirituality. > > > > _Nisargadatta _ > (Nisargadatta ) , > > " Arvind " <adithya_comming@> > > wrote: > > > > > > [To me] spirituality can be summed up in 2 sentences: > > > > > > - Are you Happy? > > > o If not... start investigating " why not " ! > > > > > > > > > OK. First answer would usually be: > > Because I often cannot get what I want. > > > > What´s next? > > > > Len > > > > Next question is: What if you didn't want anything? Would you be > happy then? > > > > Phil > > > Hypothetical question cannot be answered unless through imagination. > Next question: > Is it possible not to get what I want and still be happy? > How do I do that? > > Len > > Len > perhaps one must define happiness... how does it feel? the question... the answer... the image imagining beyond the eye-I the infinite wonder of Being... falling into Cosmic Bliss of This Is.. wholely holy ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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