something from spiritual Science Fiction? plus correlation of terms

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In words of Nisardagata, person mentioned below is " an Effortless

Witness " , beyond experiences of awareness or witnessing, experiences

that are short lived and don't change you much, there is a state

where Awareness goes much deeper, is permanent and Effortless.

That is the state Nisardagata was at. He referred to it poeticaly as

A God of Gods or A Guru of Gurus.

Following writing is for Rajneeshe's, it uses Rajneesh terms.

What for Rajneesh was " Osho Buddha moving into the primary position "

is the beginning of this Nisardagata's state of Effortless Witness.

It is easy to understand, if some other entity one can call God or

Consciousness (Rajneesh called it Osho Buddha), moves into the

primary position in a body, it is in control of a body. Then who you

become? A WITNESS, " I AM " , " I AM a Witness " . Like Lao-Tsu has

said: " Tao does not do, but nothing is not done " . Tao is not a doer,

but Tao must have had the capacity to witness actions, SINCE NOW Tao

is REPORTING that actions took and take place " nothing is not done " .

 

Dear Osho Sannyasins,

 

Most of you, old time Osho Sannyasins say that you don't go to Osho

Ashram any more. Most of you didn't even stay there more than 2 years

after Osho leaving his body.

I have heard many complaints from you that there is no love there any

more, and it is too expensive. Due to management insistence on Zorba

prices for entry went up from rs10, when Osho was still alive, to

rs380 nowadays.

 

People, who are mostly businessmen and women, high zorba sannyasins,

with large egos, took control of the facility, making, some of you

say a perfect " part-time " retirement for themselves.

 

Gentlier, old Osho sannyasins, that were in Love with Osho, those

from probably pre-Ranch times, gave up, depressed over what has

happened.

 

This leads somewhere, somewhere unpleasant, an unpleasant

circumstance arose there in 2000 and still continues.

 

Most Masters ask of their most trusted disciples of some committment

to their teachings Dharma, and to other people, all people visiting

the Ashram, to make them feel at home. Even to just nowadays could

those people be called customers, some taking rs7000 and up courses,

some not being on low budget, not going inside every day.

That is not that much to ask, some friendship, some warm words, some

LISTENING...with open mind, not judging immediately. Any average

society member is capable of doing it. We are not talking here about

some forced " other centered " Love. Just listening, just reading email

like this one and maybe asking some questions. Just gaining some at

least information, what Osho called an intellectual understanding...

Osho said on many occassions asking you not to treat others like your

prospective customers, don't do zorba on people here, he used to say,

in a bit different words.

 

Osho did, in contrast to other Masters little of Commitment to his

DHARMA teachings. And lifetime commitment to both Dharma and Sangha,

even those people comming from the street for one day into that

facility in Pune.

 

Please have patience with me...it is a lot of talk, I AM maybe as

Talkative as Osho was...

 

Osho also taught that some sannyasins could in the right time for

them to become pure Witnesses, Witnessing Osho Buddha moving into

primary position in their bodies. A New Beginning, he called it.

What could this New Beginning be? Or other term like " Rebirth " what

does it suggest.

In Catholic Misticizm there is a term Union Mistica, a term for a

process of 3 stages. First one is called A Way of Purgation. What can

this name suggest? Is it hard, is there a lot of anger on that stage?

Does a being a delicate feminine being (surrender has already

happened) NEED SUPPORT from Loving people, or at least people who

take time from their busy lives to listen. Listen to what? Osho

Buddha in a primary position, doesn't it suggest that those will be

Osho Buddha's words they will be listening to? Words of pure ocean of

consciousness? Isn't that DHARMA?

Those words are full of wisdom for those open minded enough to listen

and make some effort on their part to understand them, ask questions.

Osho right before leaving his body, in words of Yakusan asked

Enlightened people to reveal themselves and others to start sharing.

That body, a body of Pure Witnessing is a carrier of Dharma, says

Dharma, energy around this body is also pure. Thou body just from

outside, without listening also beyond words, appears to be sangha

member only. Maybe even not too likeable one, since there is a New

Beginning Battle of the remnants of old ego of that person happening

with Osho Budddha.

 

What are the condition at the Old Osho Ashram now, with as you say no

love, not even enough care for what happens to that person. That

person is purely treated LIKE A CUSTOMER. A low spender - WHAT need

does a person with Osho Buddha in control to have to TAKE COURSES?

What courses? Courses taught by people in whom Osho Buddha is just a

small shadow, and their EGOs are still quite large by comparison with

the remnants of old ego, with how many layers of Zen Onion?

That person has needs, but not that of spiritual seeker type? Osho

Buddha on a spiritual Search? Those needs are mundane world needs.

Place to stay, clothing, food, pocket money...What if that body

was " dumped " onto that bodies physical parents to give those needed

mundane " things " , since in Pune there was no one interested in

wellbeing of Osho Buddha, absolutely no one over a period of 5 months

there in summer and fall 2000.

 

New beginning in such conditions experiences loneliness, in the

beginning cannot have even the minimum wage jobs, then has some, but

few and short lasting. Parents family friends are asked for help,

body sleeps in homeless shelters, stays in dormatories in youth

hostels. There is this web site " couch surfer " where strangers offer

couches for strangers. Why there is not even one old pre pune1 or

pune 1 sannyasin who would be interested enough just to see Osho

Buddha now in California (Santa Cruz)?

This Witness, a pure witness witnesses his savings wiped out, savings

of his parents wiped out, property car sold. Unable to work, what can

he do?

 

Appeals to other people, people with some understanding even just

intellectual one of the spiritual search. Writes to Gurus, Masters,

editorial staff of spiritual magazines.

And what does Osho Buddha say to them? JUST FACTS

 

What are the replies?

One is to post these facts on websites concerning themselves with

VICTIMS OF Rajneesh Cult. Who gave that advice to Osho Buddha? An

editor of a respected TRICYCLE Budddhist Review. Should it be

followed? An Osho Buddha a victim of an Osho Sannyas so called

community.

 

Is there any old osho sannyasins who at least would like to have

those emails (stating facts) emailed to them, like other's non osho

sannyasins?

 

Aren't those conditions in Osho Centers including the main ones

perfect for the situation where there will be nobody with Osho

Buddha in the primary position?

 

Consciousness via words of Osho refered to his teachings as AN

EXPERIMENT.

Does it have to be an experiment, that is dying out now?

Can there be at least one old osho sannyasin somewhat interested in

what happened to that body taken over in OCI in summer 2000?