Would you 'consciously' create suffering for yourself? / Len

[Guest guest]

[...]

 

> > > What do you do when you cannot

get what you want?

 

 

> > I check...

> > If I can " want " ... exactly what I

have " got " !

 

 

> I wonder, aren´t you subtly forcing

yourself to want what you got to

> avoid the discomfort of not having

what you want?

 

 

That's a question of 'perspective'!

 

 

Aren't you subtly forcing yourself in

'resistance' and resultant

'unhappiness' by saying that you don't

want THAT which is already the case...

 

on THAT which you really can have No

Choice...

 

on that which can not be any other

way - because, it has already

happened - because, it is already the

case?

 

 

Aren't you subtly forcing yourself in

'resistance' and resultant

'unhappiness' by saying that what you

want 'in now' is Not the reality of now

but, that 'which is Not in Now' [a picture

that you had made in your mind in past]?

 

Even you know that 'what has happened'

is already the case and can't change in

now - so what use is creating " suffering "

by 'wanting' that which you too know is

'impossible'?

 

Does it serve any " real " purpose other

than creating " suffering " ?

 

Would you 'consciously' create suffering

for yourself?

 

 

....

 

 

My 'want' was the 'past'...

In past, I had imagined/dreamt/

thought/wanted/desired things...

 

That " thinking " , that " dreaming " , that

" imagining " , that " desiring " had

happened... in the 'past'!

 

The reality is Now!

 

 

I realize the Reality...

 

and, then I ask:

 

" what do I want now??? " !

 

 

Fretting about 'what didn't happen'

and creating inner unhappiness is

rarely what I want 'in now'!

 

The reality that which has already

happened doesn't change because of me

being unhappy about it - this inner

resistance and unhappiness doesn't do

anything other than hurt me inside!

 

Is that what I " really " want Now?

 

The answer most often is - No!

 

If I still want to strive, act or take

any steps that I find appropriate - I

can do it! But, doing so doesn't

require me to 'fight', 'argue' or

'resist' that which is already the case!

 

 

My 'want' was 'past'...

 

The Reality is " now " ...

 

 

What do I want now?

 

Do I want to 'suffer' because the

present reality is different than what

I had imagined in past? Does it change

'what is already the case'? If not, why

would I do it?

 

If I still want to " dream " ... I can

always dream a new one... but, it

doesn't require me to " suffer " ... it

doesn't require me to argue with that

which is already the case

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming

wrote:

>

> [...]

>

> > > > What do you do when you cannot

> get what you want?

>

>

> > > I check...

> > > If I can " want " ... exactly what I

> have " got " !

>

>

> > I wonder, aren´t you subtly forcing

> yourself to want what you got to

> > avoid the discomfort of not having

> what you want?

>

>

> That's a question of 'perspective'!

>

>

> Aren't you subtly forcing yourself in

> 'resistance' and resultant

> 'unhappiness' by saying that you don't

> want THAT which is already the case...

>

> on THAT which you really can have No

> Choice...

>

> on that which can not be any other

> way - because, it has already

> happened - because, it is already the

> case?

>

>

> Aren't you subtly forcing yourself in

> 'resistance' and resultant

> 'unhappiness' by saying that what you

> want 'in now' is Not the reality of now

> but, that 'which is Not in Now' [a picture

> that you had made in your mind in past]?

>

> Even you know that 'what has happened'

> is already the case and can't change in

> now - so what use is creating " suffering "

> by 'wanting' that which you too know is

> 'impossible'?

>

> Does it serve any " real " purpose other

> than creating " suffering " ?

>

> Would you 'consciously' create suffering

> for yourself?

>

>

> ...

>

>

> My 'want' was the 'past'...

> In past, I had imagined/dreamt/

> thought/wanted/desired things...

>

> That " thinking " , that " dreaming " , that

> " imagining " , that " desiring " had

> happened... in the 'past'!

>

> The reality is Now!

>

>

> I realize the Reality...

>

> and, then I ask:

>

> " what do I want now??? " !

>

>

> Fretting about 'what didn't happen'

> and creating inner unhappiness is

> rarely what I want 'in now'!

>

> The reality that which has already

> happened doesn't change because of me

> being unhappy about it - this inner

> resistance and unhappiness doesn't do

> anything other than hurt me inside!

>

> Is that what I " really " want Now?

>

> The answer most often is - No!

>

> If I still want to strive, act or take

> any steps that I find appropriate - I

> can do it! But, doing so doesn't

> require me to 'fight', 'argue' or

> 'resist' that which is already the case!

>

>

> My 'want' was 'past'...

>

> The Reality is " now " ...

>

>

> What do I want now?

>

> Do I want to 'suffer' because the

> present reality is different than what

> I had imagined in past? Does it change

> 'what is already the case'? If not, why

> would I do it?

>

> If I still want to " dream " ... I can

> always dream a new one... but, it

> doesn't require me to " suffer " ... it

> doesn't require me to argue with that

> which is already the case

 

 

 

 

To be honest, it sounds somehow theoretical to me.

As if you have read a lot of stuff and now repeat it.

It doesn´t sound like a first hand experience.

But maybe I´m wrong.

Are you saying that you don´t want what you don´t have?

Are you absolutely sure?

You might be just brainwashing yourself to avoid suffering.

 

len