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dear friends

 

It is the climax of ignorance to think that the spiritual knowledge is

unrelated to the present worldly affairs. People think that the spiritual

knowledge is always related to the upper world only and this shows their

ignorance. The Lord is simultaneous ruler of this world as well as the upper

world. The Lord can grant any materialistic boon in this world and also can give

simultaneously the protection in the upper world. The Lord is also involved in

the social problems of this world because He is ultimately governing this

society also. There is His government underlying in the present human government

as the foundation. The present human government is like the castle seen above

the ground. But the government of the Lord is like the hidden foundation present

inside the ground. Jesus always referred this government of the Lord. Lord

Krishna also exhibited the existence of this invisible government of the Lord by

showing the vision of His cosmic form (Viswaroopam). Arjuna decided to

withdraw from the war and thereby he thought that his grandfather Bishma and

the teacher Drona would escape from death. By this Dharmaraja will not become

the king. Both the punishment of the evil and protection of justice were

withdrawn by Arjuna. The actual petitioner was withdrawing from his own case.

Then in such case Krishna, the advocate of Arjuna need not worry. Arjuna thought

that he brought Krishna as his helper in his own case. If the petitioner

withdraws his own case, the court accepts and leaves the case in the present

human government. But the ultimate government will not accept it. Even if the

petitioner does not file his case, the case is registered in the court of the

ultimate divine government. Therefore Krishna turned the tables diagonally

opposite. In His exhibited Viswaroopam, Krishna showed that He Himself was

killing the evil opponents called as Kauravas. This picture proved that Krishna

is the petitioner and Arjuna was His helper. The petitioner will do his

work even in the absence of the helper. You may think that the kingdom belongs

to Pandavas for, which the war was taking place and therefore Arjuna should be

the real petitioner and war must be his work. You will misunderstand like this

as long as you think Krishna as an ordinary human being. But Krishna was Lord in

human form and the entire creation was His kingdom. Therefore the society

present on this tiny earth is also a small part of His kingdom. Every living

being is under the rule of His divine government and therefore any affair of the

individual or the society is His subject only. Arjuna understood the meaning of

this vision and that his grandfather and teacher cannot live even if he

withdraws from the war. Therefore he thought that it would be better to follow

the instruction of the Lord and kill them so that atleast he will please the

Lord.

 

The absence of realization of the existence of this underlying invisible

divine government of the Lord, which was preached by Jesus again and again as

kingdom of heaven and which was exhibited by Krishna through the divine vision,

is responsible for all the present burning problems at the individual level as

well as at the gross level of the society. The human government is neglecting to

propagate the awareness regarding the existence of this divine government. In

fact the divine government also rules the human government. Perhaps the human

government is feeling about the loss of its prestige by propagating the presence

of this ultimate divine government. The awareness of the concept of this

ultimate government of the Lord can be propagated through education at the

primary level. But the government especially in India feels shy to introduce the

spiritual knowledge in the education due to the so-called secularism. Secularism

really means that the same medicine is present in every

cup and you can take the medicine present in all the cups with equal liking.

Secularism also means that you can take the medicine from any cup and respect

other cups with equality. But the present secularism has ended in a horrible

sense by which the medicine is not taken at all from a single cup or all cups.

Such sense is misunderstood or misinterpreted secularism. Mahatma Gandhi prayed

Eeshwara and Allah equally and that is the real secularism. But in the present

secularism you neither pray Eeshwara nor Allah nor both with equality. Instead

of such pseudo secularism, it is better not to have secularism at all. Let us

like one cup only and take the medicine from that cup. It is better that India

remains as a Hindu country and follow the spiritual knowledge of Hinduism

sincerely. In the present false secularism, India neither takes the spiritual

knowledge from Hinduism nor from any other religion. The government feels shy in

uttering even the word God, which is above all the

religions like the medicine, which is not related with any cup.

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000

wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> It is the climax of ignorance to think that the spiritual

knowledge is unrelated to the present worldly affairs. People think

that the spiritual knowledge is always related to the upper world

only and this shows their ignorance. The Lord is simultaneous ruler

of this world as well as the upper world. The Lord can grant any

materialistic boon in this world and also can give simultaneously the

protection in the upper world. The Lord is also involved in the

social problems of this world because He is ultimately governing this

society also. There is His government underlying in the present human

government as the foundation. The present human government is like

the castle seen above the ground. But the government of the Lord is

like the hidden foundation present inside the ground. Jesus always

referred this government of the Lord. Lord Krishna also exhibited the

existence of this invisible government of the Lord by showing the

vision of His cosmic form (Viswaroopam). Arjuna decided to

> withdraw from the war and thereby he thought that his grandfather

Bishma and the teacher Drona would escape from death. By this

Dharmaraja will not become the king. Both the punishment of the evil

and protection of justice were withdrawn by Arjuna. The actual

petitioner was withdrawing from his own case. Then in such case

Krishna, the advocate of Arjuna need not worry. Arjuna thought that

he brought Krishna as his helper in his own case. If the petitioner

withdraws his own case, the court accepts and leaves the case in the

present human government. But the ultimate government will not accept

it. Even if the petitioner does not file his case, the case is

registered in the court of the ultimate divine government. Therefore

Krishna turned the tables diagonally opposite. In His exhibited

Viswaroopam, Krishna showed that He Himself was killing the evil

opponents called as Kauravas. This picture proved that Krishna is the

petitioner and Arjuna was His helper. The petitioner will do his

> work even in the absence of the helper. You may think that the

kingdom belongs to Pandavas for, which the war was taking place and

therefore Arjuna should be the real petitioner and war must be his

work. You will misunderstand like this as long as you think Krishna

as an ordinary human being. But Krishna was Lord in human form and

the entire creation was His kingdom. Therefore the society present on

this tiny earth is also a small part of His kingdom. Every living

being is under the rule of His divine government and therefore any

affair of the individual or the society is His subject only. Arjuna

understood the meaning of this vision and that his grandfather and

teacher cannot live even if he withdraws from the war. Therefore he

thought that it would be better to follow the instruction of the Lord

and kill them so that atleast he will please the Lord.

>

> The absence of realization of the existence of this underlying

invisible divine government of the Lord, which was preached by Jesus

again and again as kingdom of heaven and which was exhibited by

Krishna through the divine vision, is responsible for all the present

burning problems at the individual level as well as at the gross

level of the society. The human government is neglecting to propagate

the awareness regarding the existence of this divine government. In

fact the divine government also rules the human government. Perhaps

the human government is feeling about the loss of its prestige by

propagating the presence of this ultimate divine government. The

awareness of the concept of this ultimate government of the Lord can

be propagated through education at the primary level. But the

government especially in India feels shy to introduce the spiritual

knowledge in the education due to the so-called secularism.

Secularism really means that the same medicine is present in every

> cup and you can take the medicine present in all the cups with

equal liking. Secularism also means that you can take the medicine

from any cup and respect other cups with equality. But the present

secularism has ended in a horrible sense by which the medicine is not

taken at all from a single cup or all cups. Such sense is

misunderstood or misinterpreted secularism. Mahatma Gandhi prayed

Eeshwara and Allah equally and that is the real secularism. But in

the present secularism you neither pray Eeshwara nor Allah nor both

with equality. Instead of such pseudo secularism, it is better not to

have secularism at all. Let us like one cup only and take the

medicine from that cup. It is better that India remains as a Hindu

country and follow the spiritual knowledge of Hinduism sincerely. In

the present false secularism, India neither takes the spiritual

knowledge from Hinduism nor from any other religion. The government

feels shy in uttering even the word God, which is above all the

> religions like the medicine, which is not related with any cup.

>

>

>

> at the lotus of shri datta swami

> surya

> www.universal-spirituality.org

>

>

>Hello,

 

there is no " divine governement " ....

 

everything appear to be....what " you " are.....

 

if " you " are divine.....then you " see divine " ....

 

if " you " are ignorant....then you " see " an excuse to stay being

ignorant by the help of nice concepts and theories

 

 

Marc

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Lord is the creator of this whole universe. The universe itself is so huge, He

only can rule this because He is of infinite power. He has given free will to

the human beings. If somebody mis-utilise the free will, as father He will make

us set right. Initially He may preach us. if we do not hear, it does mean we

require punishment and this is also to bring change in the human being only.

 

Is this all not the administration of Lord? Do you think anybody other than

Lord can rule this universe? If you do not accept that Lord is ruling the

universe, it leads to atheism. Theists say Lord is omnipresent and an

omnipresent. Such Lord only can rule this universe.

 

Your doubt could be because, you are seeing many calamities etc etc. in the

world. What Lord can do in those aspects? People have been given free will and

He comes in human form to preach divine knowledge and uplift people. But, nobody

is following His word and instead people are sinning only. Sins lead to

sufferance, which can be through calamities, ill health etc.

 

at the lotus of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

Hello,

 

there is no " divine governement " ....

everything appear to be....what " you " are.....

if " you " are divine.....then you " see divine " ....

if " you " are ignorant....then you " see " an excuse to stay being ignorant by the

help of nice concepts and theories

 

Marc

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000

wrote:

>

 

Hi,

 

the Lord has given free will to the human beings...?....

 

nice concept....

 

why you don't use this your free will so?

 

why are you concerned about the fiction of an " administration of

Lord " ....?

 

i don't see this your mentionned " calamities " ....

 

is it not a " sin " to " see " only calamaties around....?

is it not a " sin " to " seperate " people in different categories...?

 

you think that you are the " human form of the Lord " ....?....

 

nice....so please ....be happy.....and enjoy the " Lord "

 

Marc

 

 

> Lord is the creator of this whole universe. The universe itself is

so huge, He only can rule this because He is of infinite power. He

has given free will to the human beings. If somebody mis-utilise the

free will, as father He will make us set right. Initially He may

preach us. if we do not hear, it does mean we require punishment and

this is also to bring change in the human being only.

>

> Is this all not the administration of Lord? Do you think anybody

other than Lord can rule this universe? If you do not accept that

Lord is ruling the universe, it leads to atheism. Theists say Lord is

omnipresent and an omnipresent. Such Lord only can rule this universe.

>

> Your doubt could be because, you are seeing many calamities etc

etc. in the world. What Lord can do in those aspects? People have

been given free will and He comes in human form to preach divine

knowledge and uplift people. But, nobody is following His word and

instead people are sinning only. Sins lead to sufferance, which can

be through calamities, ill health etc.

>

> at the lotus of shri datta swami

> surya

> www.universal-spirituality.org

>

> dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

> Hello,

>

> there is no " divine governement " ....

> everything appear to be....what " you " are.....

> if " you " are divine.....then you " see divine " ....

> if " you " are ignorant....then you " see " an excuse to stay being

ignorant by the help of nice concepts and theories

>

> Marc

>

>

> Travel

> Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations!

>

>

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Lord Datta is essentially a teacher. His very nature is the nature of a teacher.

If you study the nature of teacher, you have understood the very nature of

Datta. The aim of mother, father and teacher is only the welfare of the child.

But, mother and father may become lenient due to their blind intensive love on

the child. But, the love of a teacher (Guru) is never blind and is always aimed

at the welfare of student. The love of father and mother may sometimes spoil the

welfare of the child. Therefore, Datta treats all the living beings in the

creation as His students and not as His issues. Therefore, the teacher is more

than father and mother.

 

The Lord created fruits for both good and bad actions. Why should He create a

fruit for an action? Let there be acts without fruits. The child does mischief,

but the mother or father does not punish. In that case, there is no fruit for

that action. Similarly, let the Lord not punish our sins. If you expect like

this, the answer is that the Lord does not behave like father or mother but

behaves only as a teacher. The child gets spoiled if the mischief is tolerated.

We are seeing this in the world. The teacher will never tolerate the spoiling of

the child and therefore, He will not tolerate the mischief.

 

God uses the fruits of your sins as punishments and the only aim is your

welfare. This is the reason why Datta is always called as Guru Datta. Therefore,

guru or teacher is greatest. The results of bad deeds are used as punishments to

transform and uplift the student. Therefore, the result of a bad deed is very

very useful for the transformation of the soul. The results of your good deeds

are given to you just as a relaxation between two punishments. When He punishes

systematically, He is called as Yama. In the interval when you receive

happiness, He is Indra. Sometimes He gives severe punishments with roaring

sound. He is called as Kala Bhairava at that time. The hell is the special

equipment for punishment. The aim of the punishment is only the real welfare.

 

at the lotus of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

Hi,

the Lord has given free will to the human beings...?

nice concept....why you don't use this your free will so?why are you concerned

about the fiction of an " administration of Lord " ....?

i don't see this your mentionned " calamities " ....

is it not a " sin " to " see " only calamaties around?is it not a " sin " to

" seperate " people in different categories? you think that you are the " human

form of the Lord " ?nice.so please .be happy.and enjoy the " Lord "

 

Marc

 

 

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