Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- 1069 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- > > 1069@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/21/2006 9:38:54 AM Pacific Standard > Time, > > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > > > Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:50:28 -0000 > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > Re: What's Your Faith? > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 1:22:22 AM Pacific Standard > > Time, > > > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > > > > > Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:21:15 -0000 > > > > > " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069@> > > > > > Re: What's Your Faith? > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > > <wwoehr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every sexy girl is more or less a new challenge to > > > distribute one's > > > > > > genes > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > *************** > > > > > > > > > > If Nature thought you were good enough to be born, why > can't > > > you get > > > > > laid? > > > > > > > > > > " Silver " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nature sometimes makes mistakes, but seldom repeats them. > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nature never makes a mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a joke, but I know how you hate those. > > > > However, the imperfection of nature is essential to it's > > > perfection. > > > > Evolution would not seemingly occur without it. There's a > lesson > > > there for us > > > > illusory humans too, since we're a part of it. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > *************** > > > > > > Let's assume Toomb did not misunderstand your statement. Let us > > > suppose, rather, that he chose to take it seriously instead. > Let's > > > forget, for a moment, the fact that you meant it as an indirect > > > insult to Werner. Let us put aside the humour for just a bit > and > > > look at the deeper meaning of your statement. Why don't we, > > > instead, view it as a serious commentary on Nature? Does it > make > > > mistakes or not? > > > > > > Really. Give me a break. If we took Phil's statement to mean > > > exactly and literally what it says, he would have us believe > that > > > Nature does indeed make mistakes and that it only makes the same > > > mistake once. Never twice. Not the same one. It continually > > makes > > > a series of new mistakes. > > > > > > If that were so, then the question arises wether or not these > > > mistakes generate improvement in Nature. Is Evolution a > > progressive > > > process or is it a regressive one? > > > > > > Is it not both? Is Evolution not both creative and destructive > in > > > nature? > > > > > > We observe that the nature of the universe is dual. We > experience > > > it as a place in space-time in which light and dark, up and > down, > > > hot and cold, positive and negative, etcetera, can coexist. As > far > > > as our physical senses can tell, there is no other reality. > > > > > > However, intelligence tells us more than our senses do. It > tells > > us > > > that a non-Aristotelian world exists. A world in which > everything > > > is connected together to form a whole. A place which is no > place. > > > A time in which there is no time. A vision in which all is > One. > > > > > > Can both worlds exist at the same time and in the same place? > > > > > > It seems so. > > > > > > And where do these worlds exist? Where are they? > > > > > > They are in the mind. They have being in the mind only. > > > > > > And what is the mind? > > > > > > The mind is a bundle of memory impressions that thinks it is > > real . > > > And because it thinks this, that is why it gives credence to its > > own > > > creations. It thinks the world is real because it thinks itself > > > real. > > > > > > How did the mind become conscious? How did it become self- > > conscious? > > > > > > If the world exists in the mind and I am a mind who thinks it is > > > real, then the world is in me. I am not in the world. > > > > > > That would mean that space-time, also, is in me. > > > > > > Everything would be in me if I were the mind I took myself to be. > > > > > > But what if I did not take myself to be what I think I am? What > > > would I be? > > > > > > Difficult if not impossible to answer. I wouldn't be anything I > > > could think of. > > > > > > What is that? What is being nothing I can think of? > > > > > > Think about that for a sec. Pretty bizarre, huh? > > > > > > " Silver " > > > > > I can't think about it. Where is that place and when is that time? > > That second to think in that place of locality in that named thing > > spacetime? Forthwith are a few thoughts.But lo! Some may be > humorous. > > I'll try not to laugh. > > > > One of the extraordinary things about human events is that the > > unthinkable becomes thinkable. " > > Salman Rushdie > > > > " MAGNITUDE, n. Size. Magnitude being purely relative, > nothing > > is large and nothing small. If everything in the universe were > > increased in bulk one thousand diameters nothing would be any > larger > > than it was before, but if one thing remain unchanged all the > others > > would be larger than they had been. To an understanding familiar > with > > the relativity of magnitude and distance the spaces and masses of > the > > astronomer would be no more impressive than those of the > > microscopist. For anything we know to the contrary, the visible > > universe may be a small part of an atom, with its component ions, > > floating in the life- fluid (luminiferous ether) of some animal. > > Possibly the wee creatures peopling the corpuscles of our own > blood > > are overcome with the proper emotion when contemplating the > > unthinkable distance from one of these to another. " > > Ambrose Bierce > > > > " We have no choice but to be guilty. God is unthinkable if > we > > are innocent. " > > Archibald MacLeish > > > > " A graphic representation of data abstracted from the banks of > every > > computer in the human system. Unthinkable complexity. Lines of > light > > ranged in the nonspace of the mind, clusters and constellations of > > data. Like city lights, receding. " > > William Gibson > > > > " We must dare to think about unthinkable things because when > > things become unthinkable, thinking stops and action becomes > > mindless. " > > J. William Fulbright > > > > I agree it's bizarre. But we should not assume. We should not > > suppose. We should not forget nor should we deduce others' > meanings > > or intent without due consideration and consultation. > > giving you a break I hope......bob > > **************** > > Alright, true. But did you pick up on the error I deliberately > planted in what I wrote? I'm curious if Phil will. > > " Silver " > > > I believe that I can pick it up Silver. I think I plucked it weft and woof. Both it and itself. Hoping this hasn't spoiled the fun for Phil. Hey that last bit there..thats not so literate but it is alliteration.........LOL.....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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