Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 These are some comments on comments of this Bubba Free John guy now the Avatar Adi Da Samraj..(a doo da day), posted in another thread..but they are too funny to not share. [The following excerpt is from Avatar Adi Da Samraj.] There is no mind-form that is Truth Itself... I have accounted for all aspects of potential human experience that arise out of the Prior and Universal Unity...and I have done so on the basis of My direct Awareness of the different structures that come into play in each stage of life (or mode of development). I Stand entirely Apart from the conventional " God " -- ideas and conventional mythologies of exoteric religion. I am Communicating an Esoteric Way -- and, therefore, the only-by-Me Revealed and Given Way of Adidam is the Completion and Fulfillment of the ancient tradition of (always Reality-based) esoteric Spirituality and Yoga. I Say (and have always Said) to you: Reality Itself Is the Only Real God. Reality Itself (or Truth Itself) Is What there Is to Realize... The Process of Realizing Reality Itself (or Truth Itself) is (inevitably) related to the structures of the human being, and to the structures of conditionally manifested existence (altogether) -- but that Process is a matter of Realizing That Which Transcends all such conditional structures, and (indeed) all of conditionally manifested existence (itself). Thus, in Making My Revelation about Reality (and the process of Realizing Reality), I am not merely Communicating a philosophy. Rather, I am Revealing Myself. This -- My Avatarically Self-Given Divine Self-Revelation -- Is the Basis of the only-by-Me Revealed and Given Way of Adidam. •oneLove Hey Frank, the point being??? Adi Da Samraj: " Thus, in Making My Revelation about Reality (and the process of Realizing Reality), I am not merely Communicating a philosophy. Rather, I am Revealing Myself. This -- My Avatarically Self-Given Divine Self-Revelation -- Is the Basis of the only-by-Me Revealed and Given Way of Adidam. " Sooooo what, Bubba! After thirty or so years, still no results. And you know it too. LOL! Adi Da Samraj (July 25, 2000): " Why have people been so unresponsive to Me? Why is there such destruction of My Work? After 30 years there still aren't any missionary results. So what is the source of this non-event? What is defeating it? Why are there no signs of this resistance changing? " Adi Da Samraj (September 30, 2000): " You have not done anything in all these thirty years, and here I Am, almost sixty-one years of age, and I have seen that My Work has failed...I have been rejected. You have not accepted Me. This entire gathering has never come to a point of accepting Me. There is no response or recognition...You have wasted My Life -- My actual human Life. You have made Me into a cult figure...You have made Adidam into a non-event with your reactivity. " Adi Da Samraj (July 25, 2000): " ...Truly, I am just serving a secondary, religion business function. I am a Face in the Chair to keep the religion business going such that it is. My Great Divine Work or Process is bullshit to everyone. " You're running out of time Frankie boy, When the world seems wrong, it's time to right your own self! •Crone This FLO stuff is so-o-o-o passe. Too bad it all has as much to do with the nondual truth as my dog's ass. •just wondering Peter, what's with the schiziod capitalization? Everything da complains that his devottes have failed at is because of his own actions not theirs. He is the dysfunctional one that creates all the chaos and insanity and then blames them. How pathetic. He fancies himself as some kind of shiva god of destruction. Don't you get this yet? Stop being a daist tool will ya? •] " Da complains that his devottes have failed. " Indeed he does jw: " I feel isolated. I have nothing of a life that has profundity. My devotees are supposed to be cultivating the relationship and conveying gifts to Me. Another year has passed, and still we have not accomplished anything. There is no recognition, no process, nothing happening, nothing fundamentally has changed. In between My Sittings in the Chair, there is nothing to convey or to do with Me that makes it right. " [Adi Da - July 5, 2000] And... " There is no response to My Literature. [Dawn Horse Press sales are very low.] Why should I even print it? Nothing comes of it. This gathering is not communicating any great message. There is no culture of recognition. I Sit and Work Spiritually, and you all do nothing in response. " [Adi Da - July 5, 2000] And... " ...I am not anywhere. I just sit and pretend. There is no real process around Me. What am I here for? ...It's the same dead pattern. There are no gifts. No one is creating the new pattern. I am still treated like an asshole. " [Adi Da - July 25, 2000] And... " Why have people been so unresponsive to Me? Why is there such destruction of My Work? After 30 years there still aren't any missionary results. So what is the source of this non-event? What is defeating it? Why are there no signs of this resistance changing? " [Adi Da - July 25, 2000] Isn't it great that Peter give us such opportunity to shed real light on Da's " dark " bullshit? And he actually thinks he's promoting this failing cult of Frank's. ....oneLove •David in Thailand Re: Da...Well an asshole should be treated like one! •sparrowhawk Just sitting and pretending... Adi Da just sits and pretends, there is no real process around him. Did Ramana ever feel the need to just sit an pretend? Did Ramana ever complain there was no process around him, that there weren't enough gifts from devotees? It seems Ramana by all accounts had inexhaustable compassion. Where is Adi Da's sense of compassion after 30 years? A man who lives like a king and yet complains that he is trapped, who complains, complains, complains ad- nauseaum. A man who claims " this body is the teaching. " And yet whose body is bloated like a grossly overweight cat who is being pampered to death by doting senile caretakers. No missionary results? Why bother printing his literature? Who would want to read his late work, that impenetrable, inflated claptrap? Doesn't just sitting and pretending in the chair whining about being treated like an asshole tell the real sorry story, and give the lie to the situation? Finally! After 30 years some real honesty! •sparrowhawk added: PS. The body is the teaching... Frank's body shows all the signs of a man who could never successfully curb his penchant for the extremes of self-indulgence. And all the cited complaints point to the presence of a colossal ego that is mortified and insulted by its lack of Universal Acknowledgement by the world at large to honor him as the avatar to end all avatars. So what's with all the Ego, Frank? This body is the teaching indeed! •Analysis: Frank states: " I Stand entirely Apart from the conventional " God " -- ideas and conventional mythologies of exoteric religion. " Well, what's wrong with this statement? First, no one stands " entirely apart " from anything (except the ego self-concept, which is illusory). Frank focuses on his specialness and " apart " -ness to distinguish himself. There is no acceptance of his arising through and as a greater whole. Such a pronouncement -- such a glorification of the limited self -- is reflective of an ego inflated by subtle-awareness. The emphasis on " conventional " and " exoteric " as other to or " entirely apart " from Frank's proclaimed " esoteric " path is misguided and false as well. There is nothing exoteric that is not also esoteric. There is nothing that occurs interiorly that does not have some physical, behavioral, or biochemical component. Every level and component of the human bodymind is both exoteric/external and esoteric/internal at the same time. The only thing that may be accurately referred to as esoteric or internal is that aperture to the infinite within us, our spiritual intuition/voice. But even then, this opening or formless space is actually That which includes and transcends all that manifests. Thus, all these dichotomies/divisions are ultimately false; the maintenance of such dichotomies is particularly pernicious in an institution like Adidam which claims to reveal a path to nondual consciousness. To put it more simply, to say that an " exoteric " religion like the Christian Baptists (for example) is entirely devoid of esoteric components is utterly false. There are thousands of Baptists who each day experience authentic feelings of love, gratitude, joy, oneness, and so forth. Unfortunately, many of them attribute their well-being to the Bible, the person of Jesus Christ, or someone in the Church hierarchy, and thus alienate their core nondual identity and maintain the church's abusive and deluding power structure; but these shortcomings of attribution do not in any way invalidate the authenticity of their experiences of spirit/grace/love itself. It is essential that we validate what is true/beautiful/irreducible of another's experiences if we are to set the foundation of tolerance and acceptance that is required for broader and more permanent spiritual emancipation. ----- Yep, this fella Da is a cleva cleva fella.. " who's zoomin who? " ...areteha franklin (no relation to the real Franklin(Albert Jones) b. 1939 to poor unenlightened nobodies.Now a really swift guru with lot's of starry eyed groupies and billing himself as Adi Da Samraj maybe i'm jealous.........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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