Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 In a message dated 3/19/2006 7:31:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, pedsie5 writes: > It still hurts, > specially, physical pain, but mental pain becomes > such as the sadness of a novel, that even when moving > us to tears, is nothing personal, nothing lasting. > > Pete > L.E: Remember that as you someday fade into death. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 To say that pleasure and suffering are the same seems absurd, but suffering is just pleasure's evil twin. It's only the way we take delivery of each that makes them different. To understand how suffering turns into pleasure, we need to inquire into how we perceive suffering in entertainment. Many use fear and horror for fun at amusement parks and at horror movies. Many watch sad soap operas and cry their eyes out with great relish. How is it possible that negative emotions such as sadness, horror, and fear could give pleasure? We all know the answer, because in entertainment the sense of this is happening to me, is not there; the sense this is real, is not present. In the same way, when the brain (or mind, if you prefer) realizes that the " I feeling " is just a nemonic phantom, suffering loses its ability to torture. It still hurts, specially, physical pain, but mental pain becomes such as the sadness of a novel, that even when moving us to tears, is nothing personal, nothing lasting. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > To say that pleasure and suffering are the same > seems absurd, but suffering is just pleasure's evil > twin. It's only the way we take delivery of each that > makes them different. > > To understand how suffering turns into pleasure, > we need to inquire into how we perceive suffering > in entertainment. Many use fear and horror for fun > at amusement parks and at horror movies. Many > watch sad soap operas and cry their eyes out with > great relish. How is it possible that negative > emotions such as sadness, horror, and fear could > give pleasure? We all know the answer, because > in entertainment the sense of this is happening to me, > is not there; the sense this is real, is not present. > > In the same way, when the brain (or mind, if you > prefer) realizes that the " I feeling " is just a nemonic > phantom, suffering loses its ability to torture. It still hurts, > specially, physical pain, but mental pain becomes > such as the sadness of a novel, that even when moving > us to tears, is nothing personal, nothing lasting. > > Pete **************** Let us set you on fire then. Nothing personal. " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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