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The overall sense is that of a seeming process of experience that is so

delicately balanced that it appears to be on the verge of awakening to itself

all

the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what keeps this from happening,

but then I recognize the desire to remain and continue the experience. When the

 

experience is complete, awakening occurs spontaneously and naturally in the

same way, and for the same reason, that we awaken from our nightly dreams.

 

Phil

 

L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of your response. There is so much

there it's not easy to absorb or even easily understand, but the intensity and

richness is impressive.

I still find your insistence on the word " mechanism " difficult to accept. I

feel much more comfortable with " human organism. " So if I just inject " human

organism " where you use mechanism perhaps I can read it with more compatability.

You are very uncertain about many things and I respect that, and you have an

obvious capcity for complex thinking.

I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement, or if you are hoping to find

someone that will deal with your vision and correct it where it is inaccurate.

It's a little like you are juggling all these concepts or possibiliities and

can't put down the balls, or are pleading with someone to admire your skill and

tells you to relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of the struggle to

understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's exactly how it is, now you

can stop and let the idea balls drop. " Maybe, someday, you'll just get tired,

and stop doing that with your mind, or the mind.

If it could only simplify itself for you, what a relief! Maybe like this:

 

Phil, I am life itself and you are my expression. Just relax and enjoy being

who you are instead of trying to figure out who you are. You are of me, my

expression so just let it go, you cannot figure it out because I am what you are

trying to grasp, and I am ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I am

because you are who I am, and you cannot look back into the process of existence

or being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see backwards into me while I

am being you. You have to just live and move into the moment and chose

according to your nature. Eat some food, love someone, have a few thousand

orgasims, fight against the bad guys or even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to

figure out what is ahead of you rather than what is producing you. I am

producing you, Life, Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self. Don't

worry about it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my hands, so to speak.

I am living as you, through you so relax and live fully.

That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the subject, talk about something

else for a change.

 

Love and Light,

 

Larry Epstn

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/20/2006 2:52:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:09:51 -0500

epston

Re: Complete Attention-Phil

 

The overall sense is that of a seeming process of experience that is so

delicately balanced that it appears to be on the verge of awakening to

itself

all

the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what keeps this from happening,

but then I recognize the desire to remain and continue the experience. When

the

 

experience is complete, awakening occurs spontaneously and naturally in the

same way, and for the same reason, that we awaken from our nightly dreams.

 

Phil

 

L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of your response. There is so

much there it's not easy to absorb or even easily understand, but the

intensity and richness is impressive.

I still find your insistence on the word " mechanism " difficult to accept. I

feel much more comfortable with " human organism. " So if I just inject

" human organism " where you use mechanism perhaps I can read it with more

compatability. You are very uncertain about many things and I respect that,

and you

have an obvious capcity for complex thinking.

I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement, or if you are hoping to

find someone that will deal with your vision and correct it where it is

inaccurate. It's a little like you are juggling all these concepts or

possibiliities

and can't put down the balls, or are pleading with someone to admire your

skill and tells you to relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of the

struggle to understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's exactly how it

is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. " Maybe, someday, you'll

just get tired, and stop doing that with your mind, or the mind.

If it could only simplify itself for you, what a relief! Maybe like this:

 

Phil, I am life itself and you are my expression. Just relax and enjoy

being who you are instead of trying to figure out who you are. You are of me,

my

expression so just let it go, you cannot figure it out because I am what you

are trying to grasp, and I am ungrasable. You are not able to figure out

who I am because you are who I am, and you cannot look back into the process of

existence or being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see backwards

into me while I am being you. You have to just live and move into the moment

and chose according to your nature. Eat some food, love someone, have a few

thousand orgasims, fight against the bad guys or even be a bad guy, your

choice. Try to figure out what is ahead of you rather than what is producing

you.

I am producing you, Life, Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self.

Don't worry about it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my hands, so

to speak. I am living as you, through you so relax and live fully.

That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the subject, talk about

something else for a change.

 

Love and Light,

 

Larry Epstn

 

 

 

I don't need anything from anyone. Nobody's words here are any more useful

to me than mine are to them. All the words are, at best, one individual's

exploration that has nothing to do with me, or at worst, a set of projections,

fears and an attempt to get me to struggle with your own ignorance. Nobody

listens to anyone else, and you're not supposed to. You're supposed to be

listening to yourself, but almost nobody does that either, which is why the

discussions look so foolish and pointless. They mostly are.

 

The most ignorant believe that they can take an idea from some guru and

decide to do that. Since they can't, they then try to tell everybody else how to

do it. That's why we have folks repeating over and over that we should stop

thinking or just be or post just a certain amount or meditate more or enjoy

life or dismiss life or love more or rub your head and belly at the same time

while chanting.

 

This is all human ignorance. If there were a way, everybody would be doing

it. If the proper choices could be made, everybody who wanted it would be

enlightened, and everybody's life would be happy. Isn't that obvious? Whatever

somebody is doing is not happening because they're waiting for you to come along

and tell them what they're doing wrong. It's happening because it's

happening and it will continue to happen until it stops happening. This isn't

some

advanced theory. This is how your life has always been. The story you've

written about your life and what you've accomplished is just a collection of

events

that we like. None of it was caused by you.

 

If there was ever anything to learn, it's that it's not your job to try to

change it or make all sorts of important decisions or help somebody understand

anything. Everything just is what it is.

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> The overall sense is that of a seeming process of experience that

is so

> delicately balanced that it appears to be on the verge of

awakening to itself

> all

> the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what keeps this from

happening,

> but then I recognize the desire to remain and continue the

experience. When the

>

> experience is complete, awakening occurs spontaneously and

naturally in the

> same way, and for the same reason, that we awaken from our

nightly dreams.

>

> Phil

>

> L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of your response.

There is so much there it's not easy to absorb or even easily

understand, but the intensity and richness is impressive.

> I still find your insistence on the word " mechanism " difficult to

accept. I feel much more comfortable with " human organism. " So if

I just inject " human organism " where you use mechanism perhaps I can

read it with more compatability. You are very uncertain about many

things and I respect that, and you have an obvious capcity for

complex thinking.

> I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement, or if you are

hoping to find someone that will deal with your vision and correct

it where it is inaccurate. It's a little like you are juggling all

these concepts or possibiliities and can't put down the balls, or

are pleading with someone to admire your skill and tells you to

relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of the struggle to

understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's exactly how it

is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. " Maybe, someday,

you'll just get tired, and stop doing that with your mind, or the

mind.

> If it could only simplify itself for you, what a relief! Maybe

like this:

>

> Phil, I am life itself and you are my expression. Just relax and

enjoy being who you are instead of trying to figure out who you

are. You are of me, my expression so just let it go, you cannot

figure it out because I am what you are trying to grasp, and I am

ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I am because you are

who I am, and you cannot look back into the process of existence or

being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see backwards into me

while I am being you. You have to just live and move into the

moment and chose according to your nature. Eat some food, love

someone, have a few thousand orgasims, fight against the bad guys or

even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to figure out what is ahead of

you rather than what is producing you. I am producing you, Life,

Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self. Don't worry about

it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my hands, so to

speak. I am living as you, through you so relax and live fully.

> That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the subject, talk

about something else for a change.

>

> Love and Light,

>

> Larry Epstn

 

************

 

Larry,

 

If Mother Earth could speak, I believe She would say exactly what

you just did. I just want you to know that I totally agree with

it. So, thank you, sincerely. I think it's the best thing I've

read here so far.

 

:)

 

" Silver "

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote:

>

>

> --- s_i_l_v_e_r1069 <silver-1069 a

> écrit :

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> >

> > The overall sense is that of a seeming process of

> experience that

> is so

> > delicately balanced that it appears to be on the

> verge of

> awakening to itself

> > all

> > the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what keeps

> this from

> happening,

> > but then I recognize the desire to remain and

> continue the

> experience. When the

> >

> > experience is complete, awakening occurs

> spontaneously and

> naturally in the

> > same way, and for the same reason, that we awaken

> from our

> nightly dreams.

> >

> > Phil

> >

> > L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of your

> response.

> There is so much there it's not easy to absorb or even

> easily

> understand, but the intensity and richness is

> impressive.

> > I still find your insistence on the word " mechanism "

> difficult to

> accept. I feel much more comfortable with " human

> organism. " So if

> I just inject " human organism " where you use mechanism

> perhaps I can

> read it with more compatability. You are very

> uncertain about many

> things and I respect that, and you have an obvious

> capcity for

> complex thinking.

> > I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement, or

> if you are

> hoping to find someone that will deal with your vision

> and correct

> it where it is inaccurate. It's a little like you are

> juggling all

> these concepts or possibiliities and can't put down

> the balls, or

> are pleading with someone to admire your skill and

> tells you to

> relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of the

> struggle to

> understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's

> exactly how it

> is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. "

> Maybe, someday,

> you'll just get tired, and stop doing that with your

> mind, or the

> mind.

> > If it could only simplify itself for you, what a

> relief! Maybe

> like this:

> >

> > Phil, I am life itself and you are my expression.

> Just relax and

> enjoy being who you are instead of trying to figure

> out who you

> are. You are of me, my expression so just let it go,

> you cannot

> figure it out because I am what you are trying to

> grasp, and I am

> ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I am

> because you are

> who I am, and you cannot look back into the process of

> existence or

> being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see

> backwards into me

> while I am being you. You have to just live and move

> into the

> moment and chose according to your nature. Eat some

> food, love

> someone, have a few thousand orgasims, fight against

> the bad guys or

> even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to figure out

> what is ahead of

> you rather than what is producing you. I am producing

> you, Life,

> Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self.

> Don't worry about

> it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my

> hands, so to

> speak. I am living as you, through you so relax and

> live fully.

> > That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the

> subject, talk

> about something else for a change.

> >

> > Love and Light,

> >

> > Larry Epstn

>

> ************

>

> Larry,

>

> If Mother Earth could speak, I believe She would say

> exactly what

> you just did. I just want you to know that I totally

> agree with

> it. So, thank you, sincerely. I think it's the best

> thing I've

> read here so far.

>

 

 

 

 

Yes indeed.

 

That is all very comforting.

 

It makes my self all warm and cozy.

 

Like the Disiderata did when I first heard it.

 

It makes me feel like my granddaughter must feel when she holds her pink blanket

to her

cheek....slips her thumb into her mouth.....and gazes off into the distance.

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/21/2006 9:38:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:19:51 +0100 (CET)

OConnor Patricia <gdtige

RE: Re: Complete Attention-Phil

 

 

--- s_i_l_v_e_r1069 <silver-1069 a

écrit :

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> The overall sense is that of a seeming process of

experience that

is so

> delicately balanced that it appears to be on the

verge of

awakening to itself

> all

> the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what keeps

this from

happening,

> but then I recognize the desire to remain and

continue the

experience. When the

>

> experience is complete, awakening occurs

spontaneously and

naturally in the

> same way, and for the same reason, that we awaken

from our

nightly dreams.

>

> Phil

>

> L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of your

response.

There is so much there it's not easy to absorb or even

easily

understand, but the intensity and richness is

impressive.

> I still find your insistence on the word " mechanism "

difficult to

accept. I feel much more comfortable with " human

organism. " So if

I just inject " human organism " where you use mechanism

perhaps I can

read it with more compatability. You are very

uncertain about many

things and I respect that, and you have an obvious

capcity for

complex thinking.

> I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement, or

if you are

hoping to find someone that will deal with your vision

and correct

it where it is inaccurate. It's a little like you are

juggling all

these concepts or possibiliities and can't put down

the balls, or

are pleading with someone to admire your skill and

tells you to

relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of the

struggle to

understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's

exactly how it

is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. "

Maybe, someday,

you'll just get tired, and stop doing that with your

mind, or the

mind.

> If it could only simplify itself for you, what a

relief! Maybe

like this:

>

> Phil, I am life itself and you are my expression.

Just relax and

enjoy being who you are instead of trying to figure

out who you

are. You are of me, my expression so just let it go,

you cannot

figure it out because I am what you are trying to

grasp, and I am

ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I am

because you are

who I am, and you cannot look back into the process of

existence or

being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see

backwards into me

while I am being you. You have to just live and move

into the

moment and chose according to your nature. Eat some

food, love

someone, have a few thousand orgasims, fight against

the bad guys or

even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to figure out

what is ahead of

you rather than what is producing you. I am producing

you, Life,

Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self.

Don't worry about

it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my

hands, so to

speak. I am living as you, through you so relax and

live fully.

> That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the

subject, talk

about something else for a change.

>

> Love and Light,

>

> Larry Epstn

 

************

 

Larry,

 

If Mother Earth could speak, I believe She would say

exactly what

you just did. I just want you to know that I totally

agree with

it. So, thank you, sincerely. I think it's the best

thing I've

read here so far.

 

:)

 

" Silver "

 

 

But, but but,....

Just kidding...

I am going to have a good cup of coffee and try not

to think of you to much.

Patricia

 

 

 

Not so strangely enough. That's precisely what I did.

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

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I don't need anything from anyone. Nobody's words here are any more useful

to me than mine are to them. All the words are, at best, one individual's

exploration that has nothing to do with me, or at worst, a set of projections,

fears and an attempt to get me to struggle with your own ignorance. Nobody

listens to anyone else, and you're not supposed to. You're supposed to be

listening to yourself,

 

Phil

 

L.E: DO you grow your own wheat, carrots, tomatoes and pinapples? Do you fix

your own compter, your plumbing, your electrical power when it goes out. Did

you build your own car? " don't need anyone? " What a strange thing to write.

And when you listen to another, you ARE listening you yourself. You are the

only one here in a deep way. It is all self-talking, the whole created

universe, everything. It is all talking to yourself.

You are so incredibly WRONG! MISTAKEN! but then, your mistake is mine in the

deeper sense of things. So I have to say, when I read your words, HOW CAN I BE

THAT STUPID!

 

Larry Epston

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > --- s_i_l_v_e_r1069 <silver-1069@> a

> > écrit :

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > >

> > > The overall sense is that of a seeming process of

> > experience that

> > is so

> > > delicately balanced that it appears to be on the

> > verge of

> > awakening to itself

> > > all

> > > the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what keeps

> > this from

> > happening,

> > > but then I recognize the desire to remain and

> > continue the

> > experience. When the

> > >

> > > experience is complete, awakening occurs

> > spontaneously and

> > naturally in the

> > > same way, and for the same reason, that we awaken

> > from our

> > nightly dreams.

> > >

> > > Phil

> > >

> > > L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of your

> > response.

> > There is so much there it's not easy to absorb or even

> > easily

> > understand, but the intensity and richness is

> > impressive.

> > > I still find your insistence on the word " mechanism "

> > difficult to

> > accept. I feel much more comfortable with " human

> > organism. " So if

> > I just inject " human organism " where you use mechanism

> > perhaps I can

> > read it with more compatability. You are very

> > uncertain about many

> > things and I respect that, and you have an obvious

> > capcity for

> > complex thinking.

> > > I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement, or

> > if you are

> > hoping to find someone that will deal with your vision

> > and correct

> > it where it is inaccurate. It's a little like you are

> > juggling all

> > these concepts or possibiliities and can't put down

> > the balls, or

> > are pleading with someone to admire your skill and

> > tells you to

> > relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of the

> > struggle to

> > understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's

> > exactly how it

> > is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. "

> > Maybe, someday,

> > you'll just get tired, and stop doing that with your

> > mind, or the

> > mind.

> > > If it could only simplify itself for you, what a

> > relief! Maybe

> > like this:

> > >

> > > Phil, I am life itself and you are my expression.

> > Just relax and

> > enjoy being who you are instead of trying to figure

> > out who you

> > are. You are of me, my expression so just let it go,

> > you cannot

> > figure it out because I am what you are trying to

> > grasp, and I am

> > ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I am

> > because you are

> > who I am, and you cannot look back into the process of

> > existence or

> > being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see

> > backwards into me

> > while I am being you. You have to just live and move

> > into the

> > moment and chose according to your nature. Eat some

> > food, love

> > someone, have a few thousand orgasims, fight against

> > the bad guys or

> > even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to figure out

> > what is ahead of

> > you rather than what is producing you. I am producing

> > you, Life,

> > Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self.

> > Don't worry about

> > it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my

> > hands, so to

> > speak. I am living as you, through you so relax and

> > live fully.

> > > That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the

> > subject, talk

> > about something else for a change.

> > >

> > > Love and Light,

> > >

> > > Larry Epstn

> >

> > ************

> >

> > Larry,

> >

> > If Mother Earth could speak, I believe She would say

> > exactly what

> > you just did. I just want you to know that I totally

> > agree with

> > it. So, thank you, sincerely. I think it's the best

> > thing I've

> > read here so far.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Yes indeed.

>

> That is all very comforting.

>

> It makes my self all warm and cozy.

>

> Like the Disiderata did when I first heard it.

>

> It makes me feel like my granddaughter must feel when she holds her

pink blanket to her

> cheek....slips her thumb into her mouth.....and gazes off into the

distance.

>

> Yes..Yea..Yay. That's IT! Being There. Would that all could be

there and be SILENT in the awe of it.

.....bob

>

>

> toombaru

>

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , OConnor

Patricia <gdtige@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > --- s_i_l_v_e_r1069 <silver-1069@> a

> > écrit :

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , epston@

wrote:

> > >

> > > The overall sense is that of a seeming process

of

> > experience that

> > is so

> > > delicately balanced that it appears to be on the

> > verge of

> > awakening to itself

> > > all

> > > the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what

keeps

> > this from

> > happening,

> > > but then I recognize the desire to remain and

> > continue the

> > experience. When the

> > >

> > > experience is complete, awakening occurs

> > spontaneously and

> > naturally in the

> > > same way, and for the same reason, that we

awaken

> > from our

> > nightly dreams.

> > >

> > > Phil

> > >

> > > L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of

your

> > response.

> > There is so much there it's not easy to absorb or

even

> > easily

> > understand, but the intensity and richness is

> > impressive.

> > > I still find your insistence on the word

" mechanism "

> > difficult to

> > accept. I feel much more comfortable with " human

> > organism. " So if

> > I just inject " human organism " where you use

mechanism

> > perhaps I can

> > read it with more compatability. You are very

> > uncertain about many

> > things and I respect that, and you have an obvious

> > capcity for

> > complex thinking.

> > > I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement,

or

> > if you are

> > hoping to find someone that will deal with your

vision

> > and correct

> > it where it is inaccurate. It's a little like you

are

> > juggling all

> > these concepts or possibiliities and can't put

down

> > the balls, or

> > are pleading with someone to admire your skill and

> > tells you to

> > relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of

the

> > struggle to

> > understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's

> > exactly how it

> > is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. "

 

> > Maybe, someday,

> > you'll just get tired, and stop doing that with

your

> > mind, or the

> > mind.

> > > If it could only simplify itself for you, what a

> > relief! Maybe

> > like this:

> > >

> > > Phil, I am life itself and you are my

expression.

> > Just relax and

> > enjoy being who you are instead of trying to

figure

> > out who you

> > are. You are of me, my expression so just let it

go,

> > you cannot

> > figure it out because I am what you are trying to

> > grasp, and I am

> > ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I

am

> > because you are

> > who I am, and you cannot look back into the

process of

> > existence or

> > being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see

> > backwards into me

> > while I am being you. You have to just live and

move

> > into the

> > moment and chose according to your nature. Eat

some

> > food, love

> > someone, have a few thousand orgasims, fight

against

> > the bad guys or

> > even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to figure out

> > what is ahead of

> > you rather than what is producing you. I am

producing

> > you, Life,

> > Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self.

> > Don't worry about

> > it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my

> > hands, so to

> > speak. I am living as you, through you so relax

and

> > live fully.

> > > That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the

> > subject, talk

> > about something else for a change.

> > >

> > > Love and Light,

> > >

> > > Larry Epstn

> >

> > ************

> >

> > Larry,

> >

> > If Mother Earth could speak, I believe She would

say

> > exactly what

> > you just did. I just want you to know that I

totally

> > agree with

> > it. So, thank you, sincerely. I think it's the

best

> > thing I've

> > read here so far.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Yes indeed.

>

> That is all very comforting.

>

> It makes my self all warm and cozy.

>

> Like the Disiderata did when I first heard it.

>

> It makes me feel like my granddaughter must feel

when she holds her

pink blanket to her

> cheek....slips her thumb into her mouth.....and

gazes off into the

distance.

>

> Yes..Yea..Yay. That's IT! Being There. Would that

all could be

there and be SILENT in the awe of it.

.....bob

>

>

> toombaru

 

Well..after you, Toomb..Bob..

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote:

>

>

> --- " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 a écrit :

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , OConnor

> Patricia <gdtige@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > --- s_i_l_v_e_r1069 <silver-1069@> a

> > > écrit :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , epston@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > The overall sense is that of a seeming process

> of

> > > experience that

> > > is so

> > > > delicately balanced that it appears to be on the

> > > verge of

> > > awakening to itself

> > > > all

> > > > the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what

> keeps

> > > this from

> > > happening,

> > > > but then I recognize the desire to remain and

> > > continue the

> > > experience. When the

> > > >

> > > > experience is complete, awakening occurs

> > > spontaneously and

> > > naturally in the

> > > > same way, and for the same reason, that we

> awaken

> > > from our

> > > nightly dreams.

> > > >

> > > > Phil

> > > >

> > > > L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of

> your

> > > response.

> > > There is so much there it's not easy to absorb or

> even

> > > easily

> > > understand, but the intensity and richness is

> > > impressive.

> > > > I still find your insistence on the word

> " mechanism "

> > > difficult to

> > > accept. I feel much more comfortable with " human

> > > organism. " So if

> > > I just inject " human organism " where you use

> mechanism

> > > perhaps I can

> > > read it with more compatability. You are very

> > > uncertain about many

> > > things and I respect that, and you have an obvious

> > > capcity for

> > > complex thinking.

> > > > I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement,

> or

> > > if you are

> > > hoping to find someone that will deal with your

> vision

> > > and correct

> > > it where it is inaccurate. It's a little like you

> are

> > > juggling all

> > > these concepts or possibiliities and can't put

> down

> > > the balls, or

> > > are pleading with someone to admire your skill and

> > > tells you to

> > > relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of

> the

> > > struggle to

> > > understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's

> > > exactly how it

> > > is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. "

>

> > > Maybe, someday,

> > > you'll just get tired, and stop doing that with

> your

> > > mind, or the

> > > mind.

> > > > If it could only simplify itself for you, what a

> > > relief! Maybe

> > > like this:

> > > >

> > > > Phil, I am life itself and you are my

> expression.

> > > Just relax and

> > > enjoy being who you are instead of trying to

> figure

> > > out who you

> > > are. You are of me, my expression so just let it

> go,

> > > you cannot

> > > figure it out because I am what you are trying to

> > > grasp, and I am

> > > ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I

> am

> > > because you are

> > > who I am, and you cannot look back into the

> process of

> > > existence or

> > > being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see

> > > backwards into me

> > > while I am being you. You have to just live and

> move

> > > into the

> > > moment and chose according to your nature. Eat

> some

> > > food, love

> > > someone, have a few thousand orgasims, fight

> against

> > > the bad guys or

> > > even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to figure out

> > > what is ahead of

> > > you rather than what is producing you. I am

> producing

> > > you, Life,

> > > Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self.

> > > Don't worry about

> > > it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my

> > > hands, so to

> > > speak. I am living as you, through you so relax

> and

> > > live fully.

> > > > That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the

> > > subject, talk

> > > about something else for a change.

> > > >

> > > > Love and Light,

> > > >

> > > > Larry Epstn

> > >

> > > ************

> > >

> > > Larry,

> > >

> > > If Mother Earth could speak, I believe She would

> say

> > > exactly what

> > > you just did. I just want you to know that I

> totally

> > > agree with

> > > it. So, thank you, sincerely. I think it's the

> best

> > > thing I've

> > > read here so far.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes indeed.

> >

> > That is all very comforting.

> >

> > It makes my self all warm and cozy.

> >

> > Like the Disiderata did when I first heard it.

> >

> > It makes me feel like my granddaughter must feel

> when she holds her

> pink blanket to her

> > cheek....slips her thumb into her mouth.....and

> gazes off into the

> distance.

> >

> > Yes..Yea..Yay. That's IT! Being There. Would that

> all could be

> there and be SILENT in the awe of it.

> .....bob

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> Well..after you, Toomb..Bob..

> >

>

 

 

 

 

Just before the edge of the known world.......surrounding the city is is large

sugarcane

field......Most of the children get stuck there in the heavy sweetness..... and

never reach

the prize in time.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

>

> --- " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 a écrit :

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , OConnor

> Patricia <gdtige@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > --- s_i_l_v_e_r1069 <silver-1069@> a

> > > écrit :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , epston@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > The overall sense is that of a seeming process

> of

> > > experience that

> > > is so

> > > > delicately balanced that it appears to be on the

> > > verge of

> > > awakening to itself

> > > > all

> > > > the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what

> keeps

> > > this from

> > > happening,

> > > > but then I recognize the desire to remain and

> > > continue the

> > > experience. When the

> > > >

> > > > experience is complete, awakening occurs

> > > spontaneously and

> > > naturally in the

> > > > same way, and for the same reason, that we

> awaken

> > > from our

> > > nightly dreams.

> > > >

> > > > Phil

> > > >

> > > > L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of

> your

> > > response.

> > > There is so much there it's not easy to absorb or

> even

> > > easily

> > > understand, but the intensity and richness is

> > > impressive.

> > > > I still find your insistence on the word

> " mechanism "

> > > difficult to

> > > accept. I feel much more comfortable with " human

> > > organism. " So if

> > > I just inject " human organism " where you use

> mechanism

> > > perhaps I can

> > > read it with more compatability. You are very

> > > uncertain about many

> > > things and I respect that, and you have an obvious

> > > capcity for

> > > complex thinking.

> > > > I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement,

> or

> > > if you are

> > > hoping to find someone that will deal with your

> vision

> > > and correct

> > > it where it is inaccurate. It's a little like you

> are

> > > juggling all

> > > these concepts or possibiliities and can't put

> down

> > > the balls, or

> > > are pleading with someone to admire your skill and

> > > tells you to

> > > relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of

> the

> > > struggle to

> > > understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's

> > > exactly how it

> > > is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. "

>

> > > Maybe, someday,

> > > you'll just get tired, and stop doing that with

> your

> > > mind, or the

> > > mind.

> > > > If it could only simplify itself for you, what a

> > > relief! Maybe

> > > like this:

> > > >

> > > > Phil, I am life itself and you are my

> expression.

> > > Just relax and

> > > enjoy being who you are instead of trying to

> figure

> > > out who you

> > > are. You are of me, my expression so just let it

> go,

> > > you cannot

> > > figure it out because I am what you are trying to

> > > grasp, and I am

> > > ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I

> am

> > > because you are

> > > who I am, and you cannot look back into the

> process of

> > > existence or

> > > being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see

> > > backwards into me

> > > while I am being you. You have to just live and

> move

> > > into the

> > > moment and chose according to your nature. Eat

> some

> > > food, love

> > > someone, have a few thousand orgasims, fight

> against

> > > the bad guys or

> > > even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to figure out

> > > what is ahead of

> > > you rather than what is producing you. I am

> producing

> > > you, Life,

> > > Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self.

> > > Don't worry about

> > > it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my

> > > hands, so to

> > > speak. I am living as you, through you so relax

> and

> > > live fully.

> > > > That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the

> > > subject, talk

> > > about something else for a change.

> > > >

> > > > Love and Light,

> > > >

> > > > Larry Epstn

> > >

> > > ************

> > >

> > > Larry,

> > >

> > > If Mother Earth could speak, I believe She would

> say

> > > exactly what

> > > you just did. I just want you to know that I

> totally

> > > agree with

> > > it. So, thank you, sincerely. I think it's the

> best

> > > thing I've

> > > read here so far.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes indeed.

> >

> > That is all very comforting.

> >

> > It makes my self all warm and cozy.

> >

> > Like the Disiderata did when I first heard it.

> >

> > It makes me feel like my granddaughter must feel

> when she holds her

> pink blanket to her

> > cheek....slips her thumb into her mouth.....and

> gazes off into the

> distance.

> >

> > Yes..Yea..Yay. That's IT! Being There. Would that

> all could be

> there and be SILENT in the awe of it.

> .....bob

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> Well..after you, Toomb..Bob..

> >

>

> Well Shut My Mouth!

......bob in Tombstone Arizona.(not where Joe-Joe left his

heart for some California grass... " Get back..get back...get back to

where you once belonged " [Tuscon that is])

>

>

>

>

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>

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> change your subscription, sign in with your ID

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > --- " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> a écrit :

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , OConnor

> > Patricia <gdtige@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- s_i_l_v_e_r1069 <silver-1069@> a

> > > > écrit :

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , epston@

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > The overall sense is that of a seeming process

> > of

> > > > experience that

> > > > is so

> > > > > delicately balanced that it appears to be on the

> > > > verge of

> > > > awakening to itself

> > > > > all

> > > > > the time. Sometimes, it's unclear exactly what

> > keeps

> > > > this from

> > > > happening,

> > > > > but then I recognize the desire to remain and

> > > > continue the

> > > > experience. When the

> > > > >

> > > > > experience is complete, awakening occurs

> > > > spontaneously and

> > > > naturally in the

> > > > > same way, and for the same reason, that we

> > awaken

> > > > from our

> > > > nightly dreams.

> > > > >

> > > > > Phil

> > > > >

> > > > > L.E: Thank you for the effort and creativity of

> > your

> > > > response.

> > > > There is so much there it's not easy to absorb or

> > even

> > > > easily

> > > > understand, but the intensity and richness is

> > > > impressive.

> > > > > I still find your insistence on the word

> > " mechanism "

> > > > difficult to

> > > > accept. I feel much more comfortable with " human

> > > > organism. " So if

> > > > I just inject " human organism " where you use

> > mechanism

> > > > perhaps I can

> > > > read it with more compatability. You are very

> > > > uncertain about many

> > > > things and I respect that, and you have an obvious

> > > > capcity for

> > > > complex thinking.

> > > > > I wonder if you want comfirmation and agreement,

> > or

> > > > if you are

> > > > hoping to find someone that will deal with your

> > vision

> > > > and correct

> > > > it where it is inaccurate. It's a little like you

> > are

> > > > juggling all

> > > > these concepts or possibiliities and can't put

> > down

> > > > the balls, or

> > > > are pleading with someone to admire your skill and

> > > > tells you to

> > > > relax, that you have the answer, and can let go of

> > the

> > > > struggle to

> > > > understand now. Like " OK Phil, you got it, that's

> > > > exactly how it

> > > > is, now you can stop and let the idea balls drop. "

> >

> > > > Maybe, someday,

> > > > you'll just get tired, and stop doing that with

> > your

> > > > mind, or the

> > > > mind.

> > > > > If it could only simplify itself for you, what a

> > > > relief! Maybe

> > > > like this:

> > > > >

> > > > > Phil, I am life itself and you are my

> > expression.

> > > > Just relax and

> > > > enjoy being who you are instead of trying to

> > figure

> > > > out who you

> > > > are. You are of me, my expression so just let it

> > go,

> > > > you cannot

> > > > figure it out because I am what you are trying to

> > > > grasp, and I am

> > > > ungrasable. You are not able to figure out who I

> > am

> > > > because you are

> > > > who I am, and you cannot look back into the

> > process of

> > > > existence or

> > > > being. It is impossible. You cannot flow or see

> > > > backwards into me

> > > > while I am being you. You have to just live and

> > move

> > > > into the

> > > > moment and chose according to your nature. Eat

> > some

> > > > food, love

> > > > someone, have a few thousand orgasims, fight

> > against

> > > > the bad guys or

> > > > even be a bad guy, your choice. Try to figure out

> > > > what is ahead of

> > > > you rather than what is producing you. I am

> > producing

> > > > you, Life,

> > > > Consciousness, Eternal Wisdom, the Universal Self.

> > > > Don't worry about

> > > > it anymore. Your existence is in good hands, my

> > > > hands, so to

> > > > speak. I am living as you, through you so relax

> > and

> > > > live fully.

> > > > > That's it. No more needs to be said. Change the

> > > > subject, talk

> > > > about something else for a change.

> > > > >

> > > > > Love and Light,

> > > > >

> > > > > Larry Epstn

> > > >

> > > > ************

> > > >

> > > > Larry,

> > > >

> > > > If Mother Earth could speak, I believe She would

> > say

> > > > exactly what

> > > > you just did. I just want you to know that I

> > totally

> > > > agree with

> > > > it. So, thank you, sincerely. I think it's the

> > best

> > > > thing I've

> > > > read here so far.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes indeed.

> > >

> > > That is all very comforting.

> > >

> > > It makes my self all warm and cozy.

> > >

> > > Like the Disiderata did when I first heard it.

> > >

> > > It makes me feel like my granddaughter must feel

> > when she holds her

> > pink blanket to her

> > > cheek....slips her thumb into her mouth.....and

> > gazes off into the

> > distance.

> > >

> > > Yes..Yea..Yay. That's IT! Being There. Would that

> > all could be

> > there and be SILENT in the awe of it.

> > .....bob

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > Well..after you, Toomb..Bob..

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Just before the edge of the known world.......surrounding the city

is is large sugarcane

> field......Most of the children get stuck there in the heavy

sweetness..... and never reach

> the prize in time.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

There's a prize? I'm surprized!..superprized surprized!

........bob

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

>

>

> I don't need anything from anyone. Nobody's words here are any

more useful

> to me than mine are to them. All the words are, at best, one

individual's

> exploration that has nothing to do with me, or at worst, a set of

projections,

> fears and an attempt to get me to struggle with your own

ignorance. Nobody

> listens to anyone else, and you're not supposed to. You're

supposed to be

> listening to yourself,

>

> Phil

>

 

 

Reading those words confirms the feeling I had about the purpose of

your retreat, Phil.

But of course this says nothing about you and everything about me,

and you don´t need anything from anybody ;-)

 

Len

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