Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 I have discovered that desires are my *links* to the material world! Desires are the part of material creation! I have understood desires to be a part of my *responsibility* of having a human body! I have discovered that to a large extent, my efforts originate from having a desire and even noble duties such as caring for my body originate from having desire for a healthy body! In general, I have great trust in nature's wisdom and intelligence and I have found that desires that are largely natural to humans do serve some useful purpose for the growth, evolution, experience and inter- relationships of nature! Based on that, my approach is to somewhat *nurture* and consciously *cultivate* desires that I believe benefiting, healthy and natural rather resist or oppose them! I consider them part of my duty. However, I have discovered that my job is just *desiring* [some other called pretty much same thing... prayer, wishes, will...] and what and who really fulfills them is largely a mystery and is certainly mush bigger than one individual human 'body'! I consider it more as a part of my *duty* and less something that I am *personally* concerned about! Further, I consider my duty really complete the moment I fully, completely and hole-heartedly desire something and I clearly understand what is that which I desire! I have discovered that once I clearly see and understand what I really *want*, I don't even to make any real attempt or elaborate decision making! The clear knowing itself automatically generates the steps necessary and make decisions appropriate! Further, I have discovered that ultimately NONE of my desires are *really* for *myself*!!! I have discovered that what matters most to me is – peace, happiness and love and I don't need to make any attempt to gain any of them! They are readily and always available! I do NOT get *more* of these [peace, happiness, love] if any of desires are fulfilled! Nor do I get them *less* when my desires didn't turn out correct! With this understanding, my desires are simply a natural expression of evolution and a means to participate in growth and evolution of the material world – when, I am conscious – I do it consciously and I know ultimately it is not for *me*! If I remain unconscious, I do it blindly and I think I am doing it for *me*! In the first mode, I do it out of my love... In the second mode, I do it " for love " ! First one usually starts and ends in love and happiness! Second one usually starts from and ends in – Pain! *life* happens either way! --- Body is ultimately a tool of Consciousness... A *means* of evolution! It is not really for any personal *me* involved! Illusion for personal *me* is only required as long as there is unconsciousness and as long as there is non-acceptance that even *this* *body* is not really for a *me*!!! [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 ....in your discoveries my darling, what are you feeling and when is it LOVE and/or DESIRE for Love.. and if this isn't love too bad love isn't this.. for what else is there but this? Ana ;-) Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming wrote: > > I have discovered that desires are my > *links* to the material world! Desires > are the part of material creation! I > have understood desires to be a part of > my *responsibility* of having a human > body! > > I have discovered that to a large > extent, my efforts originate from > having a desire and even noble duties > such as caring for my body originate > from having desire for a healthy body! > > In general, I have great trust in > nature's wisdom and intelligence and I > have found that desires that are > largely natural to humans do serve some > useful purpose for the growth, > evolution, experience and inter- > relationships of nature! > > Based on that, my approach is to > somewhat *nurture* and consciously > *cultivate* desires that I believe > benefiting, healthy and natural rather > resist or oppose them! I consider them > part of my duty. However, I have > discovered that my job is just > *desiring* [some other called pretty > much same thing... prayer, wishes, > will...] and what and who really > fulfills them is largely a mystery and > is certainly mush bigger than one > individual human 'body'! > > I consider it more as a part of my *duty* > and less something that I am *personally* > concerned about! > > Further, I consider my duty really complete > the moment I fully, completely and hole-heartedly > desire something and I clearly understand > what is that which I desire! > > I have discovered that once I > clearly see and understand what I > really *want*, I don't even to make > any real attempt or elaborate decision > making! The clear knowing itself > automatically generates the steps > necessary and make decisions appropriate! > > > > Further, I have discovered that ultimately > NONE of my desires are *really* for *myself*!!! > > I have discovered that what matters most to > me is – peace, happiness and love and I don't > need to make any attempt to gain any of them! > They are readily and always available! > > I do NOT get *more* of these [peace, > happiness, love] if any of desires are > fulfilled! Nor do I get them *less* when > my desires didn't turn out correct! > > > With this understanding, my desires are simply > a natural expression of evolution and a means > to participate in growth and evolution of the > material world – when, I am conscious – I do it > consciously and I know ultimately it is not for > *me*! > > If I remain unconscious, I do it blindly and > I think I am doing it for *me*! > > In the first mode, I do it out of my love... > > In the second mode, I do it " for love " ! > > > First one usually starts and ends in > love and happiness! > > Second one usually starts from and ends in – Pain! > > > *life* happens either way! > > > > --- > > Body is ultimately a tool of Consciousness... > A *means* of evolution! > > It is not really for any personal *me* involved! > > Illusion for personal *me* is only required as > long as there is unconsciousness and as long > as there is non-acceptance that even *this* *body* > is not really for a *me*!!! > > > [...] > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57 wrote: > > ...in your discoveries my darling, > what are you feeling and when is it LOVE and/or DESIRE > for Love.. call it a *male* thing or an *ac* thing... but, love I already feel... The *desire* is mostly to *feel*, *experience* and *enjoy* that *body*! > > and if this isn't love too bad love isn't this.. > for what else is there but this? This has given *me* a 'body'... and, this *drive* to *feel* that other body! Love is always within! > > Ana ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming wrote: > > I have discovered that desires are my > *links* to the material world! Desires > are the part of material creation! I > have understood desires to be a part of > my *responsibility* of having a human > body! > > I have discovered that to a large > extent, my efforts originate from > having a desire and even noble duties > such as caring for my body originate > from having desire for a healthy body! > > In general, I have great trust in > nature's wisdom and intelligence and I > have found that desires that are > largely natural to humans do serve some > useful purpose for the growth, > evolution, experience and inter- > relationships of nature! > > Based on that, my approach is to > somewhat *nurture* and consciously > *cultivate* desires that I believe > benefiting, healthy and natural rather > resist or oppose them! I consider them > part of my duty. However, I have > discovered that my job is just > *desiring* [some other called pretty > much same thing... prayer, wishes, > will...] and what and who really > fulfills them is largely a mystery and > is certainly mush bigger than one > individual human 'body'! > > I consider it more as a part of my *duty* > and less something that I am *personally* > concerned about! > > Further, I consider my duty really complete > the moment I fully, completely and hole-heartedly > desire something and I clearly understand > what is that which I desire! > > I have discovered that once I > clearly see and understand what I > really *want*, I don't even to make > any real attempt or elaborate decision > making! The clear knowing itself > automatically generates the steps > necessary and make decisions appropriate! Yes, seeing is doing. > Further, I have discovered that ultimately > NONE of my desires are *really* for *myself*!!! > > I have discovered that what matters most to > me is – peace, happiness and love and I don't > need to make any attempt to gain any of them! > They are readily and always available! > > I do NOT get *more* of these [peace, > happiness, love] if any of desires are > fulfilled! Nor do I get them *less* when > my desires didn't turn out correct! Hmmm... some unfullilled desires might frustrate you, which does destroy the peace. > With this understanding, my desires are simply > a natural expression of evolution and a means > to participate in growth and evolution of the > material world – when, I am conscious – I do it > consciously and I know ultimately it is not for > *me*! Eventually, what´s really good for you is good for everybody. > If I remain unconscious, I do it blindly and > I think I am doing it for *me*! > > In the first mode, I do it out of my love... > > In the second mode, I do it " for love " ! > > > First one usually starts and ends in > love and happiness! > > Second one usually starts from and ends in – Pain! > > > *life* happens either way! > > > > --- > > Body is ultimately a tool of Consciousness... > A *means* of evolution! > > It is not really for any personal *me* involved! > > Illusion for personal *me* is only required as > long as there is unconsciousness and as long > as there is non-acceptance that even *this* *body* > is not really for a *me*!!! Well, as long as there is a me craving for some stuff for himself, this remains a nice theory. Let´s not rush ;-) Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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