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Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002

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>

> Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

>

> >... your

> > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> >

> > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

 

 

Actually, Opposite is True:

 

You are 'conditioned' by your

'experiences'!

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

> Very important to realize.

> It´s literally true.

>

> Len

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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> >

> > >... your

> > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > >

> > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

>

>

> Actually, Opposite is True:

>

> You are 'conditioned' by your

> 'experiences'!

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Very important to realize.

> > It´s literally true.

> >

> > Len

> >

>

 

 

There is no " you " separate from " your " experience.

 

And....there is no one to realize that.

 

 

(A small hand is raised in the back row...... " SIT DOWN " Yells the teacher.)

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> >

> > >... your

> > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > >

> > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

>

>

> Actually, Opposite is True:

>

> You are 'conditioned' by your

> 'experiences'!

 

 

Both are true.

 

Len

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Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >... your

> > > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > > >

> > > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

> >

> >

> > Actually, Opposite is True:

> >

> > You are 'conditioned' by your

> > 'experiences'!

>

>

> Both are true.

>

> Len

>

 

 

Neither are true.

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

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> Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

<lissbon2002@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >... your

> > > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > > >

> > > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

> >

> >

> > Actually, Opposite is True:

> >

> > You are 'conditioned' by your

> > 'experiences'!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Very important to realize.

> > > It´s literally true.

> > >

> > > Len

> > >

> >

>

>

> There is no " you " separate from " your " experience.

>

> And....there is no one to realize that.

>

>

> (A small hand is raised in the back row...... " SIT DOWN " Yells the

teacher.)

 

....and, " irritated " by this,

the student raises... the Middle Finger!

 

 

 

---

 

PS: Certainly not meant to offend you dear Toombaru!

 

A student is just responding to an unacceptable gesture

of the mythical " teacher " !

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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

> <lissbon2002@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >... your

> > > > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > > > >

> > > > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

> > >

> > >

> > > Actually, Opposite is True:

> > >

> > > You are 'conditioned' by your

> > > 'experiences'!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Very important to realize.

> > > > It´s literally true.

> > > >

> > > > Len

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > There is no " you " separate from " your " experience.

> >

> > And....there is no one to realize that.

> >

> >

> > (A small hand is raised in the back row...... " SIT DOWN " Yells the

> teacher.)

>

> ...and, " irritated " by this,

> the student raises... the Middle Finger!

>

>

>

> ---

>

> PS: Certainly not meant to offend you dear Toombaru!

>

> A student is just responding to an unacceptable gesture

> of the mythical " teacher " !

>

 

 

:-)

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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> >

> > >... your

> > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > >

> > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

>

>

> Actually, Opposite is True:

>

> You are 'conditioned' by your

> 'experiences'!

 

**************

 

Hmmm. You mean like how I seek out opportunities to express myself

musically through drumming? Why do I do that? Have I been

conditioned to drum by my experience of drumming? Or has my

experience of drumming conditioned me to drum? Now I'm confused.

 

:(

 

" Silver "

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

<lissbon2002@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >... your

> > > > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > > > >

> > > > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

> > >

> > >

> > > Actually, Opposite is True:

> > >

> > > You are 'conditioned' by your

> > > 'experiences'!

> >

> >

> > Both are true.

> >

> > Len

> >

>

>

> Neither are true.

>

>

> toombaru

>

 

**************

 

Now I'm really confused! I love drumming so much because it *speaks

to me* so to speak. My experience drives me to seek out more of the

drug I love. Why do I love it so much while my dad gets irritated

with it. He doesn't like the sound? To me that's just impossible

not to like. were me and my dad conditioned differently? Me to

love the sound of drumming and my dad to hate it? I don't get it.

 

" Silver "

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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

> <lissbon2002@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >... your

> > > > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > > > >

> > > > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

> > >

> > >

> > > Actually, Opposite is True:

> > >

> > > You are 'conditioned' by your

> > > 'experiences'!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Very important to realize.

> > > > It´s literally true.

> > > >

> > > > Len

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > There is no " you " separate from " your " experience.

> >

> > And....there is no one to realize that.

> >

> >

> > (A small hand is raised in the back row...... " SIT DOWN " Yells

the

> teacher.)

>

> ...and, " irritated " by this,

> the student raises... the Middle Finger!

>

>

>

> ---

>

> PS: Certainly not meant to offend you dear Toombaru!

>

> A student is just responding to an unacceptable gesture

> of the mythical " teacher " !

>

 

***************

 

What's the lesson I'm supposed to learn from this exchange? Teacher

yells negatively at student. Student reacts negatively. Two

negatives equals another negative. - + - = -

 

?

 

" Silver "

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Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-

1069 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

<lissbon2002@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Arvind "

<adithya_comming@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

> <lissbon2002@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >... your

> > > > > > experience is the result of your conditioning. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - J. Krishnamurti / The Book of Life

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Actually, Opposite is True:

> > > >

> > > > You are 'conditioned' by your

> > > > 'experiences'!

> > >

> > >

> > > Both are true.

> > >

> > > Len

> > >

> >

> >

> > Neither are true.

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

> **************

>

> Now I'm really confused! I love drumming so much because it

*speaks

> to me* so to speak. My experience drives me to seek out more of

the

> drug I love.

 

Why do I love it so much while my dad gets irritated

> with it.

 

 

Haa! That´s why ;-)

 

Len

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