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For life to exist this universe has to be

exactly as it is. The slightest change

in any of its many natural laws, and

life would be impossible; therefore,

say the believers, there must be a

Creator. Not so, say unbeliever this

perfection is due to chance. But to

be due to chance, implies the existence

of multiple, almost infinite numbers of

universes. Chance can't be the result

of a single throw, with such infinite odds,

that would, certainly, be cheating.

 

So it must be either God, or multiple

universes. Take your pick, or flip a coin

if you must.

 

Pete

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In a message dated 3/25/2006 9:12:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:32:40 -0800

Pete S <pedsie5

God or Chance?

 

For life to exist this universe has to be

exactly as it is. The slightest change

in any of its many natural laws, and

life would be impossible; therefore,

say the believers, there must be a

Creator. Not so, say unbeliever this

perfection is due to chance. But to

be due to chance, implies the existence

of multiple, almost infinite numbers of

universes. Chance can't be the result

of a single throw, with such infinite odds,

that would, certainly, be cheating.

 

So it must be either God, or multiple

universes. Take your pick, or flip a coin

if you must.

 

Pete

 

 

 

This is a case of what I call, 'the third hand'. On the one hand, apparent

precision implies intelligent design. On the other hand, complex order is

included in the probabilities of random chance. On the third hand, the existence

of a perfectly integrated system says nothing about the system except that it

functions in harmony. An infinite number of systems can be imagined that

could function in harmony. The design of the human body is not a constant in

this

theoretical system.

 

Is it so that the human creature could only exist under these precise

conditions, or could an infinite number of different human designs exist, each

having their own set of 'perfect' circumstances taylored to support it's design?

If there is an infinite set of 'ideal' scenarios for life to exist, what is

the probability of one of them occurring randomly on the scale of millenia? It

would be 100%. Life is inevitable.

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/25/2006 9:54:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, ADHHUB

writes:

 

> In a message dated 3/25/2006 9:12:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> Nisargadatta writes:

>

> Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:32:40 -0800

> Pete S <pedsie5

> God or Chance?

>

> For life to exist this universe has to be

> exactly as it is. The slightest change

> in any of its many natural laws, and

> life would be impossible; therefore,

> say the believers, there must be a

> Creator. Not so, say unbeliever this

> perfection is due to chance. But to

> be due to chance, implies the existence

> of multiple, almost infinite numbers of

> universes. Chance can't be the result

> of a single throw, with such infinite odds,

> that would, certainly, be cheating.

>

> So it must be either God, or multiple

> universes. Take your pick, or flip a coin

> if you must.

>

> Pete

>

>

>

> This is a case of what I call, 'the third hand'. On the one hand, apparent

> precision implies intelligent design. On the other hand, complex order is

> included in the probabilities of random chance. On the third hand, the

> existence

> of a perfectly integrated system says nothing about the system except that

> it

> functions in harmony. An infinite number of systems can be imagined that

> could function in harmony. The design of the human body is not a constant

> in this

> theoretical system.

>

> Is it so that the human creature could only exist under these precise

> conditions, or could an infinite number of different human designs exist,

> each

> having their own set of 'perfect' circumstances taylored to support it's

> design?

> If there is an infinite set of 'ideal' scenarios for life to exist, what is

> the probability of one of them occurring randomly on the scale of

> millenia? It

> would be 100%. Life is inevitable.

>

 

L.E: This discussion reminds me of those who justify the huge expense of

space exploration by claiming they want to determine when and how life or the

universe began. Over and over you can read this given as the reasom.

If you solve this problem and resolve the qestions and opinions above, what

do you end up with? Answer: Absolutely nothing. If you are right or wrong, you

end up with nothing. The correct answer will bring you no reward, and no

answer will satisfy everyone so the search will go on with endless questions and

answers adding up to nothing. Futility!

What if God IS chance? Never mind. I'm not interested in your effort to

answer.

 

Larry Epston

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 3/25/2006 9:54:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,

ADHHUB

> writes:

>

> > In a message dated 3/25/2006 9:12:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > Nisargadatta writes:

> >

> > Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:32:40 -0800

> > Pete S <pedsie5

> > God or Chance?

> >

> > For life to exist this universe has to be

> > exactly as it is. The slightest change

> > in any of its many natural laws, and

> > life would be impossible; therefore,

> > say the believers, there must be a

> > Creator. Not so, say unbeliever this

> > perfection is due to chance. But to

> > be due to chance, implies the existence

> > of multiple, almost infinite numbers of

> > universes. Chance can't be the result

> > of a single throw, with such infinite odds,

> > that would, certainly, be cheating.

> >

> > So it must be either God, or multiple

> > universes. Take your pick, or flip a coin

> > if you must.

> >

> > Pete

> >

> >

> >

> > This is a case of what I call, 'the third hand'. On the one hand,

apparent

> > precision implies intelligent design. On the other hand, complex

order is

> > included in the probabilities of random chance. On the third

hand, the

> > existence

> > of a perfectly integrated system says nothing about the system

except that

> > it

> > functions in harmony. An infinite number of systems can be

imagined that

> > could function in harmony. The design of the human body is not a

constant

> > in this

> > theoretical system.

> >

> > Is it so that the human creature could only exist under these

precise

> > conditions, or could an infinite number of different human

designs exist,

> > each

> > having their own set of 'perfect' circumstances taylored to

support it's

> > design?

> > If there is an infinite set of 'ideal' scenarios for life to

exist, what is

> > the probability of one of them occurring randomly on the scale

of

> > millenia? It

> > would be 100%. Life is inevitable.

> >

>

> L.E: This discussion reminds me of those who justify the huge

expense of

> space exploration by claiming they want to determine when and how

life or the

> universe began. Over and over you can read this given as the

reasom.

> If you solve this problem and resolve the qestions and opinions

above, what

> do you end up with? Answer: Absolutely nothing. If you are right

or wrong, you

> end up with nothing. The correct answer will bring you no reward,

and no

> answer will satisfy everyone so the search will go on with endless

questions and

> answers adding up to nothing. Futility!

> What if God IS chance? Never mind. I'm not interested in your

effort to

> answer.

>

> Larry Epston

>

> You don't seem to be interested in anything but listening to your

own inanities, in my non humle opinion which is not an opinion at

all. That's the truth friend....bob

>

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