Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 3:00:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, > ericparoissien writes: > > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 1:01:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > >ericparoissien@ writes: > > > > > >>those who write and suffer > > >>those who write and don't suffer > > >>those who don't write and suffer > > >>those who don't write and don't suffer > > > > > >Those who write and sometimes suffer. > > >Those who write and don't often suffer > > >Those who don't write and sometimes suffer > > >Those who don't write and don't oftern suffer. > > > > > >Larry Epston > > > > so it is a trap you describe, poor Niz served > > no purposed and died like a useless dog: > > " Thus conscience cloth make cowards of us all, > > And thus the native hue of resolution > > Is siclied o'er, with a pale cast of thought, > > And enterprises of great pith and moment, > > With this regard their currents turn away, > > And lose the name of action. " > > > > > > > L.E: You seem to have a paranoid proclivity. First labeling as a protection > and now feeling a trap is being layed for you. Strange. > And now you are making a list of conclusions and attributing them to me. I > never said or meant any of your list of conclusions. At least have the > courtesy to own your own fantasies and say you are just guessing and ask me if this > is my intension. > But, oh no. you just jump to conclusions. How hostile and meanspirited. > You listed the extremes, and I filled in the grey zones. Seems more real and > complete the way I wrote it. What is your real complaint? > > Larry Epston > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:03:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, silver-1069 writes: > > Larry has vividly demonstrated in his posts that he suffers. He's > in the right place. > > Some deny they suffer but betray to the world that they do. Others > proclaim to the world that they suffer but fail to surrender. > > Most fall somewhere in between. > > " Silver " L.E: Sometimes I suffer, not often. Otherwise, good post. I like the recognition of " somewhere in between. " Lots of gray zone. In and out, up and down and all around. Lots of variations. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:07:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, silver-1069 writes: > There you go again, Larry. Freud would have had a wonderful time > with you. Time to up your meds, perhaps? > > :-) > > " Silver " > L.E: I take my vitamins, but it doesn't help. Maybe you are right and I need to up the dose. Larry E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " <ericparoissien wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 3:00:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > ericparoissien@ writes: > > > > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 1:01:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > >ericparoissien@ writes: > > > > > > > >>those who write and suffer > > > >>those who write and don't suffer > > > >>those who don't write and suffer > > > >>those who don't write and don't suffer > > > > > > > >Those who write and sometimes suffer. > > > >Those who write and don't often suffer > > > >Those who don't write and sometimes suffer > > > >Those who don't write and don't oftern suffer. > > > > > > > >Larry Epston > > > > > > so it is a trap you describe, poor Niz served > > > no purposed and died like a useless dog: > > > " Thus conscience cloth make cowards of us all, > > > And thus the native hue of resolution > > > Is siclied o'er, with a pale cast of thought, > > > And enterprises of great pith and moment, > > > With this regard their currents turn away, > > > And lose the name of action. " > > > > > > > > > > > L.E: You seem to have a paranoid proclivity. First labeling as a > protection > > and now feeling a trap is being layed for you. Strange. > > And now you are making a list of conclusions and attributing them to > me. I > > never said or meant any of your list of conclusions. At least have > the > > courtesy to own your own fantasies and say you are just guessing and > ask me if this > > is my intension. > > But, oh no. you just jump to conclusions. How hostile and meanspirited. > > You listed the extremes, and I filled in the grey zones. Seems more > real and > > complete the way I wrote it. What is your real complaint? > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 3:32:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, > ericparoissien writes:> > > > > >>>>those who write and suffer > > >>>>those who write and don't suffer > > >>>>those who don't write and suffer > > >>>>those who don't write and don't suffer > > > > > L.E: writes: > Those who write and sometimes suffer. > > Those who write and don't often suffer > > Those who don't write and sometimes suffer>>> > Those who don't write and don't oftern suffer. > > > > Larry Epston > > > > >>so it is a trap you describe, poor Niz served > > >>no purposed and died like a useless dog: > > >> " Thus conscience cloth make cowards of us all, > > >>And thus the native hue of resolution > > >>Is siclied o'er, with a pale cast of thought, > > >>And enterprises of great pith and moment, > > >>With this regard their currents turn away, > > >>And lose the name of action. " > > > > L.E: You seem to have a paranoid proclivity. First labeling as a > > protection and now feeling a trap is being layed for you. Strange. > > >And now you are making a list of conclusions and attributing them to > > me. I > > >never said or meant any of your list of conclusions. At least have > > the courtesy to own your own fantasies and say you are just guessing and > > ask me if this is my intension. > > But, oh no. you just jump to conclusions. How hostile and meanspirited. > > You listed the extremes, and I filled in the grey zones. Seems more > > real and > > complete the way I wrote it. What is your real complaint? > > > > Larry Epston > > > > Please Larry calm down and come back to the topic. > > ... > > Don't forget than when you speak about suffering you have to stay within the > > realm of the " acceptable " and the " meaningful " , language will not let you > > stray > > too far from those two, if you talk about daily booboos or " oh shit i missed > > the bus! " , we are not in the spirituality topic ... > > let us refresh the topic here: > > some people suffer and have made the end of suffering the one aim of their > > life, and this is the reason why we gather here, because only spirituality can > > address > > the end of suffering in terms of " who is suffering " and not in terms of > > fulfillment as other cultural fields do... > > > > > > > > L.E: Your tone is very patronizing and unpleasant. And you don't need to > > lecture me about the use of language. It's your language that seem rambling, > > exaggerated and draws unfounded conclusions. You sarcasm and mockery seem off > > the " spirituality topic " rather than my remarks. > What you are writing seems very removed from the topic as you feel compelled > to lecture why people gather here, or the use of acceptalbe and unacceptable > language, as if you are the arbitrator and decision maker on the use of > language. How extremely arrogant. Your pompous lecturing does not come close to the > discussion at hand. There are degrees to suffering, a whole spectrum of > events and experiences and the situaltion cannot be summed up as simply as you > described. As I said, your comments describe the extremes, but omit all the > possibilities in between. Do you get annoyed when people disagree with you? > > Larry Epston ************* There you go again, Larry. Freud would have had a wonderful time with you. Time to up your meds, perhaps? :-) " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:03:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > silver-1069 writes: > > > > > Larry has vividly demonstrated in his posts that he suffers. He's > > in the right place. > > > > Some deny they suffer but betray to the world that they do. Others > > proclaim to the world that they suffer but fail to surrender. > > > > Most fall somewhere in between. > > > > " Silver " > > L.E: Sometimes I suffer, not often. Otherwise, good post. I like the > recognition of " somewhere in between. " Lots of gray zone. In and out, up and down > and all around. Lots of variations. > > Larry Epston **************** Most definitely, chum! Black and white is not my style either. ;-) " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:07:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, > silver-1069 writes: > > > There you go again, Larry. Freud would have had a wonderful time > > with you. Time to up your meds, perhaps? > > > > :-) > > > > " Silver " > > > > L.E: I take my vitamins, but it doesn't help. Maybe you are right and I need > to up the dose. > > Larry E ************ Hehe. There's that Larry I have grown to like. Stepping out of the mist of others' issues is refreshing, isn't it.... Let's go jump in the lake! The heat's almost unbearable in here sometimes. " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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