Suffering and Not Suffering

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In a message dated 3/27/2006 3:32:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,

ericparoissien writes:>

>

> >>>>those who write and suffer

> >>>>those who write and don't suffer

> >>>>those who don't write and suffer

> >>>>those who don't write and don't suffer

 

 

 

> L.E: writes:

Those who write and sometimes suffer.

> Those who write and don't often suffer

> Those who don't write and sometimes suffer>>>

Those who don't write and don't oftern suffer.

>

> Larry Epston

>

> >>so it is a trap you describe, poor Niz served

> >>no purposed and died like a useless dog:

> >> " Thus conscience cloth make cowards of us all,

> >>And thus the native hue of resolution

> >>Is siclied o'er, with a pale cast of thought,

> >>And enterprises of great pith and moment,

> >>With this regard their currents turn away,

> >>And lose the name of action. "

>

> L.E: You seem to have a paranoid proclivity. First labeling as a

> protection and now feeling a trap is being layed for you. Strange.

> >And now you are making a list of conclusions and attributing them to

> me. I

> >never said or meant any of your list of conclusions. At least have

> the courtesy to own your own fantasies and say you are just guessing and

> ask me if this is my intension.

> But, oh no. you just jump to conclusions. How hostile and meanspirited.

> You listed the extremes, and I filled in the grey zones. Seems more

> real and

> complete the way I wrote it. What is your real complaint?

>

> Larry Epston

>

> Please Larry calm down and come back to the topic.

> ...

> Don't forget than when you speak about suffering you have to stay within the

> realm of the " acceptable " and the " meaningful " , language will not let you

> stray

> too far from those two, if you talk about daily booboos or " oh shit i missed

> the bus! " , we are not in the spirituality topic ...

> let us refresh the topic here:

> some people suffer and have made the end of suffering the one aim of their

> life, and this is the reason why we gather here, because only spirituality can

> address

> the end of suffering in terms of " who is suffering " and not in terms of

> fulfillment as other cultural fields do...

>

>

>

> L.E: Your tone is very patronizing and unpleasant. And you don't need to

> lecture me about the use of language. It's your language that seem rambling,

> exaggerated and draws unfounded conclusions. You sarcasm and mockery seem off

> the " spirituality topic " rather than my remarks.

What you are writing seems very removed from the topic as you feel compelled

to lecture why people gather here, or the use of acceptalbe and unacceptable

language, as if you are the arbitrator and decision maker on the use of

language. How extremely arrogant. Your pompous lecturing does not come close

to the

discussion at hand. There are degrees to suffering, a whole spectrum of

events and experiences and the situaltion cannot be summed up as simply as you

described. As I said, your comments describe the extremes, but omit all the

possibilities in between. Do you get annoyed when people disagree with you?

 

Larry Epston