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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 3/27/2006 3:32:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> ericparoissien writes:>

> >

> > >>>>those who write and suffer

> > >>>>those who write and don't suffer

> > >>>>those who don't write and suffer

> > >>>>those who don't write and don't suffer

>

>

>

> > L.E: writes:

> Those who write and sometimes suffer.

> > Those who write and don't often suffer

> > Those who don't write and sometimes suffer>>>

> Those who don't write and don't oftern suffer.

> >

> > Larry Epston

> >

> > >>so it is a trap you describe, poor Niz served

> > >>no purposed and died like a useless dog:

> > >> " Thus conscience cloth make cowards of us all,

> > >>And thus the native hue of resolution

> > >>Is siclied o'er, with a pale cast of thought,

> > >>And enterprises of great pith and moment,

> > >>With this regard their currents turn away,

> > >>And lose the name of action. "

> >

> > L.E: You seem to have a paranoid proclivity. First labeling as a

> > protection and now feeling a trap is being layed for you. Strange.

> > >And now you are making a list of conclusions and attributing them to

> > me. I

> > >never said or meant any of your list of conclusions. At least have

> > the courtesy to own your own fantasies and say you are just

guessing and

> > ask me if this is my intension.

> > But, oh no. you just jump to conclusions. How hostile and

meanspirited.

> > You listed the extremes, and I filled in the grey zones. Seems more

> > real and

> > complete the way I wrote it. What is your real complaint?

> >

> > Larry Epston

> >

> > Please Larry calm down and come back to the topic.

> > ...

> > Don't forget than when you speak about suffering you have to stay

within the

> > realm of the " acceptable " and the " meaningful " , language will not

let you

> > stray

> > too far from those two, if you talk about daily booboos or " oh

shit i missed

> > the bus! " , we are not in the spirituality topic ...

> > let us refresh the topic here:

> > some people suffer and have made the end of suffering the one aim

of their

> > life, and this is the reason why we gather here, because only

spirituality can

> > address

> > the end of suffering in terms of " who is suffering " and not in

terms of

> > fulfillment as other cultural fields do...

> >

> >

> >

> > L.E: Your tone is very patronizing and unpleasant. And you don't

need to

> > lecture me about the use of language. It's your language that

seem rambling,

> > exaggerated and draws unfounded conclusions. You sarcasm and

mockery seem off

> > the " spirituality topic " rather than my remarks.

> What you are writing seems very removed from the topic as you feel

compelled

> to lecture why people gather here, or the use of acceptalbe and

unacceptable

> language, as if you are the arbitrator and decision maker on the use of

> language. How extremely arrogant. Your pompous lecturing does not

come close to the

> discussion at hand. There are degrees to suffering, a whole

spectrum of

> events and experiences and the situaltion cannot be summed up as

simply as you

> described. As I said, your comments describe the extremes, but omit

all the

> possibilities in between. Do you get annoyed when people disagree

with you?

>

> Larry Epston

 

could you let me go?

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 3/27/2006 4:29:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> ericparoissien writes:

>

> > As I said, your comments describe the extremes, but omit

> > all the

> > >possibilities in between. Do you get annoyed when people disagree

> > with you?

> > >

> > >Larry Epston

> >

> > could you let me go?

> >

> L.E: Before I let you go, I want to remind you that Buddha himself

it is

> written would have disagreed with both of us because he is supposed

to have said,

> LIFE IS SUFFERING, and he gave no exceptions.

> So go!

>

> Larry Epston

 

i asked for your permission to go because

i though maybe there is something you need

to express about yourself...

do you have an aim in your life?

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seems as though only one thing is true:

 

what seems to be this, seeming...seemingness

 

nonduality, folks is this/and/not-this-thisness ;-)

 

Love in all its forms/formlessness

suffering for the sake of learning suffering to unlearn suffering in

the process of BEING a compassionate BEING.

 

make sense/no-sense/non-sense?

 

Love,

Ana

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien "

<ericparoissien wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> >

> > In a message dated 3/27/2006 4:29:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> > ericparoissien@ writes:

> >

> > > As I said, your comments describe the extremes, but omit

> > > all the

> > > >possibilities in between. Do you get annoyed when people

disagree

> > > with you?

> > > >

> > > >Larry Epston

> > >

> > > could you let me go?

> > >

> > L.E: Before I let you go, I want to remind you that Buddha

himself

> it is

> > written would have disagreed with both of us because he is

supposed

> to have said,

> > LIFE IS SUFFERING, and he gave no exceptions.

> > So go!

> >

> > Larry Epston

>

> i asked for your permission to go because

> i though maybe there is something you need

> to express about yourself...

> do you have an aim in your life?

>

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