Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 In a message dated 3/27/2006 8:52:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, illusyn writes: > For forty-five years, the Buddha said, over and over again, " I teach > only suffering and the transformation of suffering. " When we recognize > and acknowledge our own suffering, the Buddha - which means the Buddha > in us - will look at it, discover what has brought it about, and > prescribe a course of action that can transform it into peace, joy, > and liberation. Suffering is the means the Buddha used to liberate > himself, and it is also the means by which we can become free. > > ~ Thich Nhat Hanh > > http://www.katinkahesselink.net/tibet/suffering.html L.E: Easy to say. Are we to assume that Thich Nhat Hanh is free from suffering just because he said this or runs an ashram? Is the leader free or are we to just make that assumption? Like Krishnamurti. Did he succed in self-realization, liberation, nirvana just because he is sitting in front of a group and giving a speech? Can you really tell by the words a person speaks? So, I wonder, how many have achieved this ideal state in comparison to thoes who have struggled to achieve it and failed? One in ten thousand, one in a hundred thousand, one in ten million? Hard to say. And if someone does achieve it do you think they will run an organization, a school, groups, give speeches? Probably not. They might just live an ordinary unseen life, planting and selling flowers, milling rice, or carrying sacks of flour in a warehouse. The liberated person, totally unseen, unknown and invisible to all who try to find him, or her. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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