Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:03:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > silver-1069@ writes: > > > > > > > > Larry has vividly demonstrated in his posts that he suffers. > He's > > > in the right place. > > > > > > Some deny they suffer but betray to the world that they do. > Others > > > proclaim to the world that they suffer but fail to surrender. > > > > > > Most fall somewhere in between. > > > > > > " Silver " > > > > L.E: Sometimes I suffer, not often. Otherwise, good post. I like > the > > recognition of " somewhere in between. " Lots of gray zone. In and > out, up and down > > and all around. Lots of variations. > > > > Larry Epston > > **************** > > Most definitely, chum! Black and white is not my style either. > > ;-) > > " Silver " there is no black and white issue about suffering Silv, if someone asks you " do you often think about the third satellite of Pluto? " you don't look like an extremist if you say " never! " , although i must admit " never! " looks like quite a vehement answer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " <ericparoissien wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " > <silver-1069@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:03:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > silver-1069@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Larry has vividly demonstrated in his posts that he suffers. > > He's > > > > in the right place. > > > > > > > > Some deny they suffer but betray to the world that they do. > > Others > > > > proclaim to the world that they suffer but fail to surrender. > > > > > > > > Most fall somewhere in between. > > > > > > > > " Silver " > > > > > > L.E: Sometimes I suffer, not often. Otherwise, good post. I like > > the > > > recognition of " somewhere in between. " Lots of gray zone. In and > > out, up and down > > > and all around. Lots of variations. > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > **************** > > > > Most definitely, chum! Black and white is not my style either. > > > > ;-) > > > > " Silver " > > there is no black and white issue about suffering Silv, > if someone asks you " do you often think about the third > satellite of Pluto? " you don't look like an extremist > if you say " never! " , although i must admit " never! " > looks like quite a vehement answer too. > ********** Oops! I think I see now that my comment might be taken to be an attack or something on someone. Wasn't meant that way. If your style isn't black and white either, great! If you prefer extremes, which I doubt, then so be it but I don't think that's what you meant. Isn't his kind of forum fun! Challenging to understand each other to say the least. No harm done, I hope??? " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " > <ericparoissien@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " > > <silver-1069@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:03:31 AM Pacific Standard > Time, > > > > silver-1069@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Larry has vividly demonstrated in his posts that he > suffers. > > > He's > > > > > in the right place. > > > > > > > > > > Some deny they suffer but betray to the world that they do. > > > Others > > > > > proclaim to the world that they suffer but fail to surrender. > > > > > > > > > > Most fall somewhere in between. > > > > > > > > > > " Silver " > > > > > > > > L.E: Sometimes I suffer, not often. Otherwise, good post. I > like > > > the > > > > recognition of " somewhere in between. " Lots of gray zone. In > and > > > out, up and down > > > > and all around. Lots of variations. > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > **************** > > > > > > Most definitely, chum! Black and white is not my style either. > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > " Silver " > > > > there is no black and white issue about suffering Silv, > > if someone asks you " do you often think about the third > > satellite of Pluto? " you don't look like an extremist > > if you say " never! " , although i must admit " never! " > > looks like quite a vehement answer too. > > > > ********** > > Oops! I think I see now that my comment might be taken to be an > attack or something on someone. Wasn't meant that way. If your > style isn't black and white either, great! If you prefer extremes, > which I doubt, then so be it but I don't think that's what you > meant. Isn't his kind of forum fun! Challenging to understand each > other to say the least. No harm done, I hope??? > > " Silver " no harm, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " <ericparoissien wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " > <silver-1069@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:03:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > silver-1069@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Larry has vividly demonstrated in his posts that he suffers. > > He's > > > > in the right place. > > > > > > > > Some deny they suffer but betray to the world that they do. > > Others > > > > proclaim to the world that they suffer but fail to surrender. > > > > > > > > Most fall somewhere in between. > > > > > > > > " Silver " > > > > > > L.E: Sometimes I suffer, not often. Otherwise, good post. I like > > the > > > recognition of " somewhere in between. " Lots of gray zone. In and > > out, up and down > > > and all around. Lots of variations. > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > **************** > > > > Most definitely, chum! Black and white is not my style either. > > > > ;-) > > > > " Silver " > > there is no black and white issue about suffering Silv, > if someone asks you " do you often think about the third > satellite of Pluto? " you don't look like an extremist > if you say " never! " , although i must admit " never! " > looks like quite a vehement answer too. > *********** Okay, sorry. I think I'm not getting this. I can't wrap my brain around all these concepts. I don't really see the complete picture about suffering. When I wrote that " some people deny they suffer... " blah blah blah I just wrote it. i don't even know where it came from or wether it's true. It sounded good at the time but now it doesn't. You're right about some things aren't either black or white but I don't understand or see the vehemence in anything above or in what you wrote. If you want or if you have time, maybe you wouldn't mind clarifying this for me? It's just me. Let's just say I'm not that quick. " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 wrote: .... > *********** > > Okay, sorry. I think I'm not getting this. I can't wrap my brain > around all these concepts. I don't really see the complete picture > about suffering. When I wrote that " some people deny they > suffer... " blah blah blah I just wrote it. i don't even know where > it came from or wether it's true. It sounded good at the time but > now it doesn't. You're right about some things aren't either black > or white but I don't understand or see the vehemence in anything > above or in what you wrote. If you want or if you have time, maybe > you wouldn't mind clarifying this for me? It's just me. Let's just > say I'm not that quick. > > " Silver " > It's all for free, time, space, all.. i said, although some words like 'yes' or 'no' look kinda peremptory, when a thing ain't there, it ain't there.. and if you were ready to accept that for example, for a person like Pete S suffering is not an issue and he is exactly what Niz was, that is, every damn day of the year he wakes up at the right place without demands beyond what he possesses already and without whining about his fate either ...then it will bring you closer to Niz, that this happens to anybody.. this simple idea is a treasure of freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Eric Paroissien " <ericparoissien wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " > <silver-1069@> wrote: > > ... > > > *********** > > > > Okay, sorry. I think I'm not getting this. I can't wrap my brain > > around all these concepts. I don't really see the complete picture > > about suffering. When I wrote that " some people deny they > > suffer... " blah blah blah I just wrote it. i don't even know where > > it came from or wether it's true. It sounded good at the time but > > now it doesn't. You're right about some things aren't either black > > or white but I don't understand or see the vehemence in anything > > above or in what you wrote. If you want or if you have time, maybe > > you wouldn't mind clarifying this for me? It's just me. Let's just > > say I'm not that quick. > > > > " Silver " > > > > It's all for free, time, space, all.. > i said, although some words like 'yes' > or 'no' look kinda peremptory, when a > thing ain't there, it ain't there.. > and if you were ready to accept that > for example, for a person like Pete S > suffering is not an issue and he is > exactly what Niz was, that is, every > damn day of the year he wakes up at > the right place without demands beyond > what he possesses already and without > whining about his fate either ...then > it will bring you closer to Niz, that > this happens to anybody.. this simple > idea is a treasure of freedom. > ********** Oh, like the fact that i never ever complain about the chronic pain I'm in? People don't even suspect that I'm in pain all the time and treat me normal. Also, sometimes I wake up feeling like I want to go back to bed but I don't tell anybody because it's no use. I have to love life. Or I might as well just shoot myself in the head and get it over with. Nah. Life's too much fun for that!!!! I don't wanna' work I just wanna' bang on de drums all day -- Song on TV commercial " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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