Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 In a message dated 3/27/2006 7:18:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, silver-1069 writes: > Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > > >In a message dated 3/27/2006 6:48:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >silver-1069 writes: > > > >>That's the response I was waiting to hear from you, Larry. > That's > >>what I wanted to ellicit from you because I knew you were just > being > >>your old stubborn self saying that words aren't as bad as > shooting. > >>If a word leads to more death and destruction, then the word > itself > >>is just as bad. Right? So who's foolishness is one's wisdom > now? > >>Hmm? Or vice versa? > >> > >> " Silver " > > > >L.E: O.K. wise guy. Lick your chops at your I gottcha game. I > agree with you > >that words can lead to death and destruction, but they are not > death and > >destruction, Leading is not being.. Unless you are in the > Liberator bomber that > >dropped the A bomb on Japan and you are saying. O.K., now! Drop > It!! Or you > >are a member of a firing squad and the sargeant ? says, FIRE!! So > in rare > >cases words and destruction can go together, just not usually. > > > >Larry Epston > > ********* > > Plenty of books on do it yourself cognitive therapy. Dr. Albert > Ellis built an empire on his Rational-Emotive Therapy techniques. > The words we use to abuse each other and ourselves everyday may not > always lead to death or destruction but they do cause us humans an > inordinate amount of emotional pain. All unnecessary and mostly > done out of just not being conscientious enough of what we're > thinking and how our thinking creates our reality and changes > reality for ourselves and others. I believe our words are extremely > packed with potential. I've never read a single word of Wayne > Dwyer's books but apparently, from what I'm told, he's the latest > guru on the power of intention and words have alot to do with > whatever it is he's talking about in those books. I'd rather tell > my child she is beautiful than that she's ugly. She'd believe every > word I told her. Her innocent belief and the intention behind my > words creates her reality or conditions her. So our words in > everyday usage do usually harm or help. Look at the gossip > tabloids!!!! > > I'm not licking my chops. I don't eat meat. Well, maybe just one > lick. I just wanted you to become more aware of how your words > might offend some people here. Like telling someone that they make > you sick and you're going to puke them up. That wasn't nice!!! And > you owe Bob an apology. I was only kidding about doing it for you, > even though I understand how, yes, we're One and all that. But that > doesn't help the One you harmed with your words. > > " Silver " L.E: I don't know why you are arguing this point. I agree that words have power to heal, bring joy or hurt. I'm not denying that. I just made a simple point that bad as use of words to hurt, a bullet in the brain or knife in the back is worse and that physical damage is usually more severe than verbal damage. As far as Bob Nixon is concerned, I have no sense that my words have any impact on him at all and that he is experiencing any suffering because of what I wrote to him. If he writes me and sincerely says, " oh Larry I'm so hurt by what you said, it has made me so unhappy I can't eat or sleep, " then he might get an apology, but that seems very unlikely. What I get from Bob Nixon makes me feel ill. Or, I feel ill in contact with his energy. His vibe is like poison to me. So if I get sick and die, it's my fault for being overcome by poison? My aversion is all within me? Maybe so, I'll look into it eventually. Meanwhile, Bob Nixon, Yuk, Icky, Arg! Repulsive! Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 7:18:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, > silver-1069 writes: > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > >In a message dated 3/27/2006 6:48:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > >silver-1069@ writes: > > > > > >>That's the response I was waiting to hear from you, Larry. > > That's > > >>what I wanted to ellicit from you because I knew you were just > > being > > >>your old stubborn self saying that words aren't as bad as > > shooting. > > >>If a word leads to more death and destruction, then the word > > itself > > >>is just as bad. Right? So who's foolishness is one's wisdom > > now? > > >>Hmm? Or vice versa? > > >> > > >> " Silver " > > > > > >L.E: O.K. wise guy. Lick your chops at your I gottcha game. I > > agree with you > > >that words can lead to death and destruction, but they are not > > death and > > >destruction, Leading is not being.. Unless you are in the > > Liberator bomber that > > >dropped the A bomb on Japan and you are saying. O.K., now! Drop > > It!! Or you > > >are a member of a firing squad and the sargeant ? says, FIRE!! So > > in rare > > >cases words and destruction can go together, just not usually. > > > > > >Larry Epston > > > > ********* > > > > Plenty of books on do it yourself cognitive therapy. Dr. Albert > > Ellis built an empire on his Rational-Emotive Therapy techniques. > > The words we use to abuse each other and ourselves everyday may not > > always lead to death or destruction but they do cause us humans an > > inordinate amount of emotional pain. All unnecessary and mostly > > done out of just not being conscientious enough of what we're > > thinking and how our thinking creates our reality and changes > > reality for ourselves and others. I believe our words are extremely > > packed with potential. I've never read a single word of Wayne > > Dwyer's books but apparently, from what I'm told, he's the latest > > guru on the power of intention and words have alot to do with > > whatever it is he's talking about in those books. I'd rather tell > > my child she is beautiful than that she's ugly. She'd believe every > > word I told her. Her innocent belief and the intention behind my > > words creates her reality or conditions her. So our words in > > everyday usage do usually harm or help. Look at the gossip > > tabloids!!!! > > > > I'm not licking my chops. I don't eat meat. Well, maybe just one > > lick. I just wanted you to become more aware of how your words > > might offend some people here. Like telling someone that they make > > you sick and you're going to puke them up. That wasn't nice!!! And > > you owe Bob an apology. I was only kidding about doing it for you, > > even though I understand how, yes, we're One and all that. But that > > doesn't help the One you harmed with your words. > > > > " Silver " > > L.E: I don't know why you are arguing this point. I agree that words have > power to heal, bring joy or hurt. I'm not denying that. I just made a simple > point that bad as use of words to hurt, a bullet in the brain or knife in the > back is worse and that physical damage is usually more severe than verbal > damage. > As far as Bob Nixon is concerned, I have no sense that my words have any > impact on him at all and that he is experiencing any suffering because of what I > wrote to him. If he writes me and sincerely says, " oh Larry I'm so hurt by > what you said, it has made me so unhappy I can't eat or sleep, " then he might get > an apology, but that seems very unlikely. What I get from Bob Nixon makes me > feel ill. Or, I feel ill in contact with his energy. His vibe is like > poison to me. So if I get sick and die, it's my fault for being overcome by poison? > My aversion is all within me? Maybe so, > I'll look into it eventually. Meanwhile, Bob Nixon, Yuk, Icky, Arg! > Repulsive! > > Larry Epston ********** Oh Larry. My grandfather would have called you a tete de mule. That's head of an ass in English. You're so stubborn! I disagree that a bullet in the brain or a knife in the back is more damaging than verbal attacks. Verbal damage lingers for years afterwards, whereas you wouldn't even feel a bullet to the brain. You'd be unconscious before your brain could even register what happened. Your brain would never know or experience the damage done. But you know this. You're just being stubborn. As far as Bob goes, he's upset with you and he's showing it. What more do you need than that to know how he feels about your comment about puking him up and stuff? Just apologize to him and be done with it. It'll make you both feel better. Guaranteed. Just try it. Remember when you and me had our arguments when I first came on here? Now we like each other, right? That's because we made an effort to understand each other. The same might help in yours and Bob's case. I predict that you're going to like each other. " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 3/27/2006 7:18:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, > silver-1069 writes: > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > >In a message dated 3/27/2006 6:48:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > >silver-1069@ writes: > > > > > >>That's the response I was waiting to hear from you, Larry. > > That's > > >>what I wanted to ellicit from you because I knew you were just > > being > > >>your old stubborn self saying that words aren't as bad as > > shooting. > > >>If a word leads to more death and destruction, then the word > > itself > > >>is just as bad. Right? So who's foolishness is one's wisdom > > now? > > >>Hmm? Or vice versa? > > >> > > >> " Silver " > > > > > >L.E: O.K. wise guy. Lick your chops at your I gottcha game. I > > agree with you > > >that words can lead to death and destruction, but they are not > > death and > > >destruction, Leading is not being.. Unless you are in the > > Liberator bomber that > > >dropped the A bomb on Japan and you are saying. O.K., now! Drop > > It!! Or you > > >are a member of a firing squad and the sargeant ? says, FIRE!! So > > in rare > > >cases words and destruction can go together, just not usually. > > > > > >Larry Epston > > > > ********* > > > > Plenty of books on do it yourself cognitive therapy. Dr. Albert > > Ellis built an empire on his Rational-Emotive Therapy techniques. > > The words we use to abuse each other and ourselves everyday may not > > always lead to death or destruction but they do cause us humans an > > inordinate amount of emotional pain. All unnecessary and mostly > > done out of just not being conscientious enough of what we're > > thinking and how our thinking creates our reality and changes > > reality for ourselves and others. I believe our words are extremely > > packed with potential. I've never read a single word of Wayne > > Dwyer's books but apparently, from what I'm told, he's the latest > > guru on the power of intention and words have alot to do with > > whatever it is he's talking about in those books. I'd rather tell > > my child she is beautiful than that she's ugly. She'd believe every > > word I told her. Her innocent belief and the intention behind my > > words creates her reality or conditions her. So our words in > > everyday usage do usually harm or help. Look at the gossip > > tabloids!!!! > > > > I'm not licking my chops. I don't eat meat. Well, maybe just one > > lick. I just wanted you to become more aware of how your words > > might offend some people here. Like telling someone that they make > > you sick and you're going to puke them up. That wasn't nice!!! And > > you owe Bob an apology. I was only kidding about doing it for you, > > even though I understand how, yes, we're One and all that. But that > > doesn't help the One you harmed with your words. > > > > " Silver " > > L.E: I don't know why you are arguing this point. I agree that words have > power to heal, bring joy or hurt. I'm not denying that. I just made a simple > point that bad as use of words to hurt, a bullet in the brain or knife in the > back is worse and that physical damage is usually more severe than verbal > damage. > As far as Bob Nixon is concerned, I have no sense that my words have any > impact on him at all and that he is experiencing any suffering because of what I > wrote to him. If he writes me and sincerely says, " oh Larry I'm so hurt by > what you said, it has made me so unhappy I can't eat or sleep, " then he might get > an apology, but that seems very unlikely. What I get from Bob Nixon makes me > feel ill. Or, I feel ill in contact with his energy. His vibe is like > poison to me. So if I get sick and die, it's my fault for being overcome by poison? > My aversion is all within me? Maybe so, > I'll look into it eventually. Meanwhile, Bob Nixon, Yuk, Icky, Arg! > Repulsive! > > Larry Epston > From the likes of you Larry..I'll take that as a compliment...bob nixon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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