Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > > > Read my words a little more carefully... > > I said, " no *time* for 'I am feeling pain' " . > > The *thought* " I am feeling pain " requires time. > > I did not say there is no pain. > > > But even pain is much different when there is complete > > presence, complete acute awareness. It would seem > > that would just make it worse. But the opposite is > > the case. > > > Bill > > Hi Bill, > > I remember as a kid, maybe 10 or so, going down into my > grandfather's basement where he had all kinds of woodworking and other > tools. One of them was a large vice attached to the end of a bench he'd > built. I loved the aroma of wood, sawdust, linseed oil, etc. > > One day, out of curiosity, I put my left hand into the vice up to > the second knuckles and began tightening the vice by slowly turning the > handle. At a certain *point*, pain began to set in. I continued to turn > the handle to increase the intensity of the pain, stopping short of > doing any damage however. I recall trying three " experiments " relative > to the *pain " . The first was to " complain " about it mentally, even " out > loud " by verbally saying such things as " This hurts. Damn, it hurts. I > wish this would go away. I can't stand it. Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! " , and so > on. > > The second experiment was to stop complaining and simply, calmly think > of it as or name it " pain " and " this hurts " . > > The third was to *feel into it* as if I didn't know what it was. As if > it were a " brand new " experience. And this made all the difference in > the world! > > I noticed that in the 1st experiment, the " pain " was most intense and > grew more so the more I indulged in complaining and fighting it. In the > 2nd experiment, it was more " tolerable " and subdued that in the first. > Whereas in the 3rd experiement, when feeling it without memory or > strategy, by inquiring *into* it from/with a " don't know " position, it > was almost as if the pain completely disappeared and " just mere > sensation " was present, which was neither pleasurable nor painful. Of > course, I've always been a bit *odd*. :-) Caution: Humans! Do not > try this experiment at home without an adult being present...should you > be fortunate enough to come across or know a true adult, that is! :-) > > Michael > What a great story Michael! And a rather unusual 10 year old! But what you are saying is exactly it. I saw a talk once given by a guy that was famous for being able to push long needles through his arm, hand, etc. He said he would become very detached, seeing his hand as an " object " . Long ago when I used to get head colds -- you know that kind where you can't even read? -- I discovered that if I were *completely present* and paid attention to every tiny spec of sensation then I didn't suffer. I was simply being forced to pay complete, impeccable attention! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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