Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes ownership. The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. In truth there is no such thing as mind. Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges concurrently with the dream of separation. Conceptualization is illusory separation. The contents of mind are hidden but present. Mind is its contents. ........a bucket of shadows. toombaru P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said all that, and of its implications? And the last metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's stroke. ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes ownership. > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges concurrently > with the dream of > separation. > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > Mind is its contents. > .......a bucket of shadows. > > toombaru > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > all that, and of its implications? And the last > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > stroke. > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > If you come to Cambria..........I will introduce you to Patricia. She rides a wild mustang you know. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes ownership. > > > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges concurrently > > with the dream of > > separation. > > > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > > Mind is its contents. > > .......a bucket of shadows. > > > > toombaru > > > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > > all that, and of its implications? And the last > > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > > stroke. > > > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > > > > > > If you come to Cambria..........I will introduce you to Patricia. > > She rides a wild mustang you know. > > > > toombaru > Downstream = something flowing (concepts?) " I " jumps up from this streaming flow of concepts Conceptual Flowing = " mind " according to " I " . But there is no such thing as " mind " . Therefore there is no conceptual Flowing. But somehow " I " emerge from a conceptual flowing that is Not. The illusory " I " has 'thoughts' which are not. From this thinking of thoughts which are not, " I " who am not, assumes ownership of naught. I am Poor in Spirit indeed. Blessed am I...and Wholely Holy Hollow Therefore no bucket there be to contain shadows of me or no one knowing naught of this nothing. You see? please don't take a thirty aught to shoot this little naught. Ought not to anyway. ...........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes > ownership. > > > > > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > > > > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > > > > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > > > > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > > > > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges > concurrently > > > with the dream of > > > separation. > > > > > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > > > > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > > > Mind is its contents. > > > .......a bucket of shadows. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > > > all that, and of its implications? And the last > > > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > > > stroke. > > > > > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > > > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > > > > > > > > > > > If you come to Cambria..........I will introduce you to Patricia. > > > > She rides a wild mustang you know. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Downstream = something flowing (concepts?) > > " I " jumps up from this streaming flow of concepts > > Conceptual Flowing = " mind " according to " I " . > > But there is no such thing as " mind " . > > Therefore there is no conceptual Flowing. > > But somehow " I " emerge from a conceptual flowing that is Not. > > The illusory " I " has 'thoughts' which are not. > > From this thinking of thoughts which are not, > > " I " who am not, > > assumes ownership of naught. > > I am Poor in Spirit indeed. > > Blessed am I...and Wholely Holy Hollow > > Therefore no bucket there be > > to contain shadows of me > > or no one knowing naught of this nothing. > > You see? > > > please don't take a thirty aught to shoot this little naught. Ought > not to anyway. > > ...........bob > All the sages tell us............There is......nothing. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes ownership. > > > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges concurrently > > with the dream of > > separation. > > > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > > Mind is its contents. > > .......a bucket of shadows. > > > > toombaru > > > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > > all that, and of its implications? And the last > > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > > stroke. > > > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > > > > > > The oddest of the odd: > > Mind is able to cognize its own vacuity. > > > > toombaru > How true toombaru. And odder than odd: this vacuity is the only thing there be that can suck and blow at the same time.(in a time which is not).....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes > > ownership. > > > > > > > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > > > > > > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > > > > > > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > > > > > > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges > > concurrently > > > > with the dream of > > > > separation. > > > > > > > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > > > > > > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > > > > Mind is its contents. > > > > .......a bucket of shadows. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > > > > all that, and of its implications? And the last > > > > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > > > > stroke. > > > > > > > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > > > > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you come to Cambria..........I will introduce you to Patricia. > > > > > > She rides a wild mustang you know. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > Downstream = something flowing (concepts?) > > > > " I " jumps up from this streaming flow of concepts > > > > Conceptual Flowing = " mind " according to " I " . > > > > But there is no such thing as " mind " . > > > > Therefore there is no conceptual Flowing. > > > > But somehow " I " emerge from a conceptual flowing that is Not. > > > > The illusory " I " has 'thoughts' which are not. > > > > From this thinking of thoughts which are not, > > > > " I " who am not, > > > > assumes ownership of naught. > > > > I am Poor in Spirit indeed. > > > > Blessed am I...and Wholely Holy Hollow > > > > Therefore no bucket there be > > > > to contain shadows of me > > > > or no one knowing naught of this nothing. > > > > You see? > > > > > > please don't take a thirty aught to shoot this little naught. Ought > > not to anyway. > > > > ...........bob > > > > > > > All the sages tell us............There is......nothing. > > > > toombaru > It is that it is and it's nothing. ..... I bow. bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes > ownership. > > > > > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > > > > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > > > > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > > > > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > > > > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges > concurrently > > > with the dream of > > > separation. > > > > > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > > > > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > > > Mind is its contents. > > > .......a bucket of shadows. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > > > all that, and of its implications? And the last > > > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > > > stroke. > > > > > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > > > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > > > > > > > > > > > The oddest of the odd: > > > > Mind is able to cognize its own vacuity. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > How true toombaru. And odder than odd: this vacuity is the only > thing there be that can suck and blow at the same time.(in a time > which is not).....bob > " IT " gets curiouser and curiouser. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 The oddest of the odd: Mind is able to cognize its own vacuity. ~~~~~~~~~ or is it vacuity cognizing mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes > > > ownership. > > > > > > > > > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > > > > > > > > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > > > > > > > > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges > > > concurrently > > > > > with the dream of > > > > > separation. > > > > > > > > > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > > > > > > > > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > > > > > Mind is its contents. > > > > > .......a bucket of shadows. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > > > > > all that, and of its implications? And the last > > > > > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > > > > > stroke. > > > > > > > > > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > > > > > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you come to Cambria..........I will introduce you to > Patricia. > > > > > > > > She rides a wild mustang you know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Downstream = something flowing (concepts?) > > > > > > " I " jumps up from this streaming flow of concepts > > > > > > Conceptual Flowing = " mind " according to " I " . > > > > > > But there is no such thing as " mind " . > > > > > > Therefore there is no conceptual Flowing. > > > > > > But somehow " I " emerge from a conceptual flowing that is Not. > > > > > > The illusory " I " has 'thoughts' which are not. > > > > > > From this thinking of thoughts which are not, > > > > > > " I " who am not, > > > > > > assumes ownership of naught. > > > > > > I am Poor in Spirit indeed. > > > > > > Blessed am I...and Wholely Holy Hollow > > > > > > Therefore no bucket there be > > > > > > to contain shadows of me > > > > > > or no one knowing naught of this nothing. > > > > > > You see? > > > > > > > > > please don't take a thirty aught to shoot this little naught. > Ought > > > not to anyway. > > > > > > ...........bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the sages tell us............There is......nothing. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > It is that it is > and it's nothing. > ..... I bow. > > bob > ...............not a leaf stirs......in strawberry canyon........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes > > ownership. > > > > > > > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > > > > > > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > > > > > > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > > > > > > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges > > concurrently > > > > with the dream of > > > > separation. > > > > > > > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > > > > > > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > > > > Mind is its contents. > > > > .......a bucket of shadows. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > > > > all that, and of its implications? And the last > > > > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > > > > stroke. > > > > > > > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > > > > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The oddest of the odd: > > > > > > Mind is able to cognize its own vacuity. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > How true toombaru. And odder than odd: this vacuity is the only > > thing there be that can suck and blow at the same time.(in a time > > which is not).....bob > > > > > " IT " gets curiouser and curiouser. > > > toombaru > And who'd of thought? ....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > The oddest of the odd: > > Mind is able to cognize its own vacuity. > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > or is it vacuity cognizing mind? > this is where rumi says: 'ahhhhhh but hush................words can take us no further...............' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The " I " emerges downstream from the thinking and assumes > > > > ownership. > > > > > > > > > > > > The " I " calls the conceptual flow " mind'. > > > > > > > > > > > > In truth there is no such thing as mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts cannot 'see' other thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as a separate...isolated thought > > > > > > > > > > > > There is only the conceptual flowingness......that emerges > > > > concurrently > > > > > > with the dream of > > > > > > separation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptualization is illusory separation. > > > > > > > > > > > > The contents of mind are hidden but present. > > > > > > Mind is its contents. > > > > > > .......a bucket of shadows. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Exquisite, Toom, are you aware you said > > > > > > all that, and of its implications? And the last > > > > > > metaphor, was... again, exquisite, a master's > > > > > > stroke. > > > > > > > > > > > > ps: this is just a sample of what I can do for you > > > > > > as your PR man, for a modest monthly fee, of course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you come to Cambria..........I will introduce you to > > Patricia. > > > > > > > > > > She rides a wild mustang you know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Downstream = something flowing (concepts?) > > > > > > > > " I " jumps up from this streaming flow of concepts > > > > > > > > Conceptual Flowing = " mind " according to " I " . > > > > > > > > But there is no such thing as " mind " . > > > > > > > > Therefore there is no conceptual Flowing. > > > > > > > > But somehow " I " emerge from a conceptual flowing that is Not. > > > > > > > > The illusory " I " has 'thoughts' which are not. > > > > > > > > From this thinking of thoughts which are not, > > > > > > > > " I " who am not, > > > > > > > > assumes ownership of naught. > > > > > > > > I am Poor in Spirit indeed. > > > > > > > > Blessed am I...and Wholely Holy Hollow > > > > > > > > Therefore no bucket there be > > > > > > > > to contain shadows of me > > > > > > > > or no one knowing naught of this nothing. > > > > > > > > You see? > > > > > > > > > > > > please don't take a thirty aught to shoot this little naught. > > Ought > > > > not to anyway. > > > > > > > > ...........bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the sages tell us............There is......nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > It is that it is > > and it's nothing. > > ..... I bow. > > > > bob > > > > > > ..............not a leaf stirs......in strawberry canyon........... > no wave ripples on howling Lake Erie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > The oddest of the odd: > > > > Mind is able to cognize its own vacuity. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > or is it vacuity cognizing mind? > > > > > > this is where rumi says: > > 'ahhhhhh but hush................words can take us no further...............' > Im left speechless........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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