Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:23:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:31 -0000 > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > Re: glimpses > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > <lissbon2002@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > > > I am Eternal, > > > > > And I shine in time, > > > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just like > > all > > > the > > > > rest of us. > > > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > > > > > And just like the rest of us, she needs some image to identify > > with. > > > Some like Eternal bullshit, some like money and succes. > > > When you don´t have money or success, The Eternal becomes > > extremely > > > attractive, you get it for free ;-) > > > > > > Len > > > > > > Why do we always want to be something? > > Why can´t we be nothing? > > > > Len > > > > > > > > Are you serious? > > > > Phil > > > Damned serious. > > Len > you got to be kidding me!!! ;-) Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:23:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:31 -0000 > > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > > Re: glimpses > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > <lissbon2002@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > > <gdtige@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > > > > I am Eternal, > > > > > > And I shine in time, > > > > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just > like > > > all > > > > the > > > > > rest of us. > > > > > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And just like the rest of us, she needs some image to > identify > > > with. > > > > Some like Eternal bullshit, some like money and succes. > > > > When you don´t have money or success, The Eternal becomes > > > extremely > > > > attractive, you get it for free ;-) > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > Why do we always want to be something? > > > Why can´t we be nothing? > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you serious? > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > Damned serious. > > > > Len > > > > > you got to be kidding me!!! > > ;-) > Ana > No no no...he's seriously damned!...just kidding Len. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > I am Eternal, > > > And I shine in time, > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just like all > the > > rest of us. > > > > Jeroen > > > > ********** > Shut up and enjoy the beauty in what she wrote, dude! Not > everything has to be so logical and serious. Sheesh. Get real > Jeroen. Be human, for G-d's sake! > > " Silver " > You are wasting your breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:52:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:19:19 -0000 " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 Re: glimpses Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:23:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:31 -0000 > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 > Re: glimpses > > --- In Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > wrote: > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > > I am Eternal, > > > > And I shine in time, > > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just like > all > > the > > > rest of us. > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > And just like the rest of us, she needs some image to identify > with. > > Some like Eternal bullshit, some like money and succes. > > When you don´t have money or success, The Eternal becomes > extremely > > attractive, you get it for free ;-) > > > > Len > > > Why do we always want to be something? > Why can´t we be nothing? > > Len > > > > Are you serious? > > Phil Damned serious. Len At the 'level' of your actual existence, you already know you exist, and so there is no need to affirm existence by being something. Within the concept of mind, most of us identify ourselves as the thinker of our thoughts. (Perhaps some of the ladies see themselves as the feeler of their feelings) Since this is not so, it's necessary to continually reaffirm this false identity or the illusion collapses. You already know who you are. You've always known on the deepest level of your being, not as a transient thought, but as an incontrovertible knowing. The only thing that keeps you from noticing that is the continuous struggle to hold your illusory identity in place as you seek to transcend the identity with that identity. There is no greater irony. This is the cosmic joke. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:52:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:19:19 -0000 > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 > Re: glimpses > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:23:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:31 -0000 > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > Re: glimpses > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > <lissbon2002@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > > > I am Eternal, > > > > > And I shine in time, > > > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just like > > all > > > the > > > > rest of us. > > > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > > > > > And just like the rest of us, she needs some image to identify > > with. > > > Some like Eternal bullshit, some like money and succes. > > > When you don´t have money or success, The Eternal becomes > > extremely > > > attractive, you get it for free ;-) > > > > > > Len > > > > > > Why do we always want to be something? > > Why can´t we be nothing? > > > > Len > > > > > > > > Are you serious? > > > > Phil > > > Damned serious. > > Len > > > > At the 'level' of your actual existence, you already know you exist, and so > there is no need to affirm existence by being something. Within the concept of > mind, most of us identify ourselves as the thinker of our thoughts. (Perhaps > some of the ladies see themselves as the feeler of their feelings) Since > this is not so, it's necessary to continually reaffirm this false identity or > the illusion collapses. > > You already know who you are. You've always known on the deepest level of > your being, not as a transient thought, but as an incontrovertible knowing. The > only thing that keeps you from noticing that is the continuous struggle to > hold your illusory identity in place as you seek to transcend the identity > with that identity. There is no greater irony. This is the cosmic joke. > > Phil > > If you don't understand..you do If you do understand..you dont Ho! > " If I don't know I don't know, I think I know. If I don't know I know, I think I don't know. " .. R D Laing ............once you've gone through the gate, you can see that the gate was youself but you can't see that until your through that gate: paraphrased Laing ......bob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:52:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:19:19 -0000 > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 > Re: glimpses > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:23:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:31 -0000 > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > Re: glimpses > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > <lissbon2002@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > > > I am Eternal, > > > > > And I shine in time, > > > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just like > > all > > > the > > > > rest of us. > > > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > > > > > And just like the rest of us, she needs some image to identify > > with. > > > Some like Eternal bullshit, some like money and succes. > > > When you don´t have money or success, The Eternal becomes > > extremely > > > attractive, you get it for free ;-) > > > > > > Len > > > > > > Why do we always want to be something? > > Why can´t we be nothing? > > > > Len > > > > > > > > Are you serious? > > > > Phil > > > Damned serious. > > Len > > > > At the 'level' of your actual existence, you already know you exist, and so > there is no need to affirm existence by being something. Within the concept of > mind, most of us identify ourselves as the thinker of our thoughts. (Perhaps > some of the ladies see themselves as the feeler of their feelings) Since > this is not so, it's necessary to continually reaffirm this false identity or > the illusion collapses. > > You already know who you are. You've always known on the deepest level of > your being, not as a transient thought, but as an incontrovertible knowing. The > only thing that keeps you from noticing that is the continuous struggle to > hold your illusory identity in place as you seek to transcend the identity > with that identity. There is no greater irony. This is the cosmic joke. > > Phil Why do we always want to be something? Why can´t we be nothing? Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:52:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:19:19 -0000 > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > Re: glimpses > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:23:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:31 -0000 > > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > > Re: glimpses > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > <lissbon2002@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > > <gdtige@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > > > > I am Eternal, > > > > > > And I shine in time, > > > > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just > like > > > all > > > > the > > > > > rest of us. > > > > > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you serious? > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the 'level' of your actual existence, you already know you > exist, and so > > there is no need to affirm existence by being something. Within > the concept of > > mind, most of us identify ourselves as the thinker of our > thoughts. (Perhaps > > some of the ladies see themselves as the feeler of their > feelings) Since > > this is not so, it's necessary to continually reaffirm this false > identity or > > the illusion collapses. > > > > You already know who you are. You've always known on the deepest > level of > > your being, not as a transient thought, but as an incontrovertible > knowing. The > > only thing that keeps you from noticing that is the continuous > struggle to > > hold your illusory identity in place as you seek to transcend > the identity > > with that identity. There is no greater irony. This is the cosmic > joke. > > > > Phil > > > >I've reread this a few times now Phil and each time I receivve more nourishment and thought...It's good man! .........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 In a message dated 4/1/2006 9:38:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:46:25 -0000 " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 Re: glimpses Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:52:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:19:19 -0000 > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 > Re: glimpses > > --- In Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:23:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:31 -0000 > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > Re: glimpses > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > <lissbon2002@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > > > I am Eternal, > > > > > And I shine in time, > > > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just like > > all > > > the > > > > rest of us. > > > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > > > > > And just like the rest of us, she needs some image to identify > > with. > > > Some like Eternal bullshit, some like money and succes. > > > When you don´t have money or success, The Eternal becomes > > extremely > > > attractive, you get it for free ;-) > > > > > > Len > > > > > > Why do we always want to be something? > > Why can´t we be nothing? > > > > Len > > > > > > > > Are you serious? > > > > Phil > > > Damned serious. > > Len > > > > At the 'level' of your actual existence, you already know you exist, and so > there is no need to affirm existence by being something. Within the concept of > mind, most of us identify ourselves as the thinker of our thoughts. (Perhaps > some of the ladies see themselves as the feeler of their feelings) Since > this is not so, it's necessary to continually reaffirm this false identity or > the illusion collapses. > > You already know who you are. You've always known on the deepest level of > your being, not as a transient thought, but as an incontrovertible knowing. The > only thing that keeps you from noticing that is the continuous struggle to > hold your illusory identity in place as you seek to transcend the identity > with that identity. There is no greater irony. This is the cosmic joke. > > Phil Why do we always want to be something? Why can´t we be nothing? Len You think you are a mind, and if it stops trying to be something, it will cease to seem to exist. The mind is a mechanism of experience. It only knows experience. Without it, the 'you' you think you are, will die. Don't you want to live? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > Why do we always want to be something? > Why can´t we be nothing? > > Len > > > > You think you are a mind, and if it stops trying to be something, it will > cease to seem to exist. The mind is a mechanism of experience. It only knows > experience. Without it, the 'you' you think you are, will die. Don't you want > to live? > > Phil Good to know that you know what I think. What would you be without it? len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 In a message dated 4/1/2006 1:33:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:42:44 -0000 " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 Re: glimpses Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:52:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:19:19 -0000 > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > Re: glimpses > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/30/2006 8:23:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:15:31 -0000 > > > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > > Re: glimpses > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > <lissbon2002@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " <sphurna@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > > <gdtige@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not from the now, > > > > > > You won`t find me in the future, > > > > > > I am Eternal, > > > > > > And I shine in time, > > > > > > But time doesn`t have time to stop, > > > > > > To look at the most delicate flower, > > > > > > That sings in its darkest dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > > > > > Forget this Eternal bullshit. You're a human being, just > like > > > all > > > > the > > > > > rest of us. > > > > > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you serious? > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the 'level' of your actual existence, you already know you > exist, and so > > there is no need to affirm existence by being something. Within > the concept of > > mind, most of us identify ourselves as the thinker of our > thoughts. (Perhaps > > some of the ladies see themselves as the feeler of their > feelings) Since > > this is not so, it's necessary to continually reaffirm this false > identity or > > the illusion collapses. > > > > You already know who you are. You've always known on the deepest > level of > > your being, not as a transient thought, but as an incontrovertible > knowing. The > > only thing that keeps you from noticing that is the continuous > struggle to > > hold your illusory identity in place as you seek to transcend > the identity > > with that identity. There is no greater irony. This is the cosmic > joke. > > > > Phil > > > >I've reread this a few times now Phil and each time I receivve more nourishment and thought...It's good man! ..........bob My ego thanks you, Bob. Hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 In a message dated 4/2/2006 1:25:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:49:20 -0000 " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 Re: glimpses Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > Why do we always want to be something? > Why can´t we be nothing? > > Len > > > > You think you are a mind, and if it stops trying to be something, it will > cease to seem to exist. The mind is a mechanism of experience. It only knows > experience. Without it, the 'you' you think you are, will die. Don't you want > to live? > > Phil Good to know that you know what I think. What would you be without it? len Yes, the use of the personal pronoun " you " is poor form because of it's likelihood of triggering ego reactions. Thanks for the heads up on that. The idea was a generic one, not specifically aimed at you. Are discussions always going to be pointless and sarcastic with you, Len, or are you having a bad week? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/2/2006 1:25:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:49:20 -0000 > " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 > Re: glimpses > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > Why do we always want to be something? > > Why can´t we be nothing? > > > > Len > > > > > > > > You think you are a mind, and if it stops trying to be something, > it will > > cease to seem to exist. The mind is a mechanism of experience. It > only knows > > experience. Without it, the 'you' you think you are, will die. > Don't you want > > to live? > > > > Phil > > > Good to know that you know what I think. > What would you be without it? > > len > > > > Yes, the use of the personal pronoun " you " is poor form because of it's > likelihood of triggering ego reactions. Thanks for the heads up on that. The idea > was a generic one, not specifically aimed at you. > > Are discussions always going to be pointless and sarcastic with you, Len, or > are you having a bad week? > > Phil Oh, so this ready made answer you served me was meant as a discussion? Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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