Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Jeroen " > > > > > <sphurna@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " > > > > > <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Eric > > > > > Paroissien " > > > > > > > <ericparoissien@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > " lissbon2002 " > > > > > <lissbon2002@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > " billrishel " <illusyn@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When totally in > > > > > > > > > > > the Now there is no *time* for " I am > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > > > pain " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.E: I appreciate your good intensions but > > > > > there is and > > > > > can be > > > > > > > > > pain > > > > > > > > > > in the present, just no suffering. > > > > > > > > > > > Pain is physical. Suffering is emotional. > > > > > You cannot > > > > > suffer > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > in the present so when there is an > > > > > experience of emotional > > > > > > hurt you > > > > > > > > > > suffer until it subsides enough to again > > > > > have the > > > > > possibility of > > > > > > > > > > existing in or entering the present. IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read my words a little more carefully... > > > > > > > > > > I said, " no *time* for 'I am feeling pain' " . > > > > > > > > > > The *thought* " I am feeling pain " requires > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > I did not say there is no pain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But even pain is much different when there > > > > > is complete > > > > > > > > > > presence, complete acute awareness. It would > > > > > seem > > > > > > > > > > that would just make it worse. But the > > > > > opposite is > > > > > > > > > > the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your mind is playing tricks on you guys, > > > > > > > > between the hypothetical, the maybe and > > > > > > > > the what-ifs about pain or suffering or > > > > > > > > suffering within pain, you just lose sight > > > > > > > > of the essential ... are you at peace with > > > > > > > > yourselves? or tormented by the perspective > > > > > > > > of torment? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of suffering was brought up by > > > > > > > someone (who?), insisting that suffering is > > > > > > > " real " because, afterall, they experience it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet I insist that it is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great! So then you don't mind if I beat up your > > > > > kids? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeroen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not based on some theory or hypotheticals, > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of " time " *is* a construct that > > > > > > > I find effective in getting across that > > > > > > > whatever takes time is not in Now, and what > > > > > > > is not in Now is not real. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So *knowing* that suffering is unreal and > > > > > > > communicating about that are two different > > > > > > > things. The knowing is not hypothetical, > > > > > > > whereas the communication may employ > > > > > > > constructs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill..I don't think there's any arguing with > > > > > Jeroen. He's almost > > > > > more smarterer than Larry E. And just about as smooth > > > > > too. > > > > > ;-)...bob > > > > > > > > > > Bill, you either have loads of patience or a lot of > > > > > time to kill! > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I remember Jeroen now. > > > > If I recall he is a Judy Rhodes protege. > > > > > > > > Advice: just put him on Ignore. > > > > You know: Don't feed the Trolls. They crave attention. > > > > > > > > Or: The SM joke where the M says: " Beat me! " > > > > and the S says: " No! " > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > LOVIN' It Bill!...bob > > > > > Talkin' 'bout J.R....she kicked me off and outta the Ranch. I > > think she understood me......LOL :- > > bob > > Bob, what a lost sheep you were! > > (Thank Heaven you're okay!) > > Bill > Thanks Bill.....baa baa black sheep that I was/am is doing just fine. However rumour has it that the Whore of the Ranch has been seen lurking in the bowels of many and sundry a list to see what some are up to. In that " She Who Would Have You Believe She Is GOD " has never herself ventured far beyond childhood's end, this simply put " very sad " behaviour must be forgiven for the deranged symptom that it is. Hey! you worked with paranoids didn't you...maybe you could be of assistance to this lady of lite mind (never in her case to be confused with l-i-g-h-t mind).Yes Bill Thank Heaven for litttle girls...Wow that sounds like a possible tune..I need to get a hold of Maurice Chevalier on this. Thanks for the Inspiration Bill ...........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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