Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 [...] > The strenght is indeed one of the factors which are determining the > impact of a physical attack. It´s not the only one though. Knowing > how to fight and intelligence in general are also important factors. Yes. They indeed are. I intended *strength* to include all of them. But, your point is very well taken! > > The situation is entirely different when it comes to psychological > harm. It is surely different but not *entirely*! > What does inner strenght mean? Consider someone in 'samadhi', deep inner repose, someone who is totally self-centered... or, someone who fully knows what, why and how of what he/she is doing, will do and stays Very Firm it! Consider someone who has Great Deal of PRACTICE and experience doing it and thus have gained skills, insights and knowledge of how to *deal* with it! > Is it a degree to which we can > resist the attack and respond with a contra offensive? Do we need to > fight back with the strenght of love and compassion? Yes. These are definitely some immensely *valuable* skills and *tricks* that one might indeed need to consider and deploy! In fact, it is not entirely different that *warfare* and one might indeed need to learn and deploy s *strategy*! Consider situations of an experienced and skilled teacher/parent dealing with *disruptive*, *grumpy*, complaining or just *manipulative* child! *Dealing* with many so called 'mature' *adults* may not be that different! > > I would say that we don´t need strenght at all when being > psychologically attacked, because there is nothing to defend. I will disagree here... The [usually hidden] purpose of the *attack* is to make you *feel bad* and you might have NO real interest in *feeling bad* yourself! The *attack* succeeds when it forces you to *feel bad* in spite of your [initially] not wanting it! It might be important to realize the real *motive* behind the *attack* and then deal with it with awareness, consciousness, intelligence, presence and TACT! Another important thing to remember is that the *attacker* itself is usually just an unconscious victims and spreader not a real conscious participant who has chosen to do so! Much like as someone infected with infectious disease is *forced* to spared the germs. Similarly such a person spreads unhappiness and attacks others by being overpowered and blinded by his/her strong parasitic emotions. > The only thing which can be defended is our defence system. What´s > the use of defending a defence system though, if there is nothing > which must be protected? No matter how strong you are, the > psychological attack will always have an impact if you´re defending > yourself. You reaction will be the impact. The stronger you react, > the bigger the impact. When you don´t defend yourself but let > the " bullit " come in, something very interesting happens. In many situations, 'not resisting' might indeed be the best possible response! Yet, there are many situations when *escaping*, 'not participating' may not only no be a good option -in fact in some situations it might be FATAL - those situations especially arise when someone emotionally *attacking* you is in fact, doing it on *purpose*! > > Len > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > What does inner strenght mean? > > Consider someone in 'samadhi', > deep inner repose, someone who > is totally self-centered... So " samadhi " means total self-centredness to you? Interesting. What does self-centredness mean to you? To me it means being " separated " from reality through self-image. > or, someone who fully knows what, why > and how of what he/she is doing, will > do and stays Very Firm it! > > Consider someone who has Great Deal > of PRACTICE and experience doing it > and thus have gained skills, insights > and knowledge of how to *deal* with > it! Practice, gaining skills and knowledge sound like the ego-stuff to me. They are strenghtening the ego, which is self-image. > Do we need to > > fight back with the strenght of love > and compassion? > > Yes. These are definitely some > immensely *valuable* skills and > *tricks* that one might indeed need to > consider and deploy! > > In fact, it is not entirely different > that *warfare* and one might indeed > need to learn and deploy s *strategy*! > > Consider situations of an experienced > and skilled teacher/parent dealing with > *disruptive*, *grumpy*, complaining > or just *manipulative* child! > > *Dealing* with many so called 'mature' > *adults* may not be that different! Of course, it´s the same but much worse ;-) The question is: do you have to fight back? Is there anything to defend? > > I would say that we don´t need > strenght at all when being > > psychologically attacked, because > there is nothing to defend. > > I will disagree here... > > The [usually hidden] purpose of the > *attack* is to make you *feel bad* > and you might have NO real interest in > *feeling bad* yourself! > > The *attack* succeeds when it forces > you to *feel bad* in spite of your > [initially] not wanting it! Here you are trying to control the situation. You´d rather feel good then bad and try to escape the bad feeling. The aim of the offender is already reached: he induced a fearful reaction ;-) > It might be important to realize the > real *motive* behind the *attack* and > then deal with it with awareness, consciousness, > intelligence, presence and TACT! The motive is offenders business, the reaction is mine. > In many situations, 'not resisting' > might indeed be the best > possible response! > > Yet, there are many situations when > *escaping*, 'not participating' > may not only no be a good option -in > fact in some situations it might > be FATAL - those situations especially > arise when someone emotionally > *attacking* you is in fact, doing it > on *purpose*! By not reacting, I don´t mean escaping. I mean receiving the attack without resistance. When this happens, the appropriate action takes place naturally. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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