You do not get *infected* with *health*, Patricia!

[Guest guest]

You get infected with *diseases*...

 

but, you NEVER get *infected* with

HEALTH!!!

 

 

That is because, health is your

natural inner condition and is

naturally present once external

conditions of diseases are removed!

 

 

You get attacked and infected by

diseases because; these are external

and foreign conditions! And, when

infected your natural health

becomes *obscured* by these

external ailments!

 

 

Health is not something that you *get*

from *outside*... once the diseases are

removed, the inner health manifest on

its own!

 

 

 

Peace, joy, love in similar way is

your natural inner condition and

is naturally present once the external

entities like mental pain and noise is

removed!

 

Others can really *give* you

diseases!!! But, no one can really

*give* you health!

 

Health is your natural inner condition.

All others can do is *not give* you diseases

and also show you the path to get rid of

diseases that you already have!

 

 

Joy when expressed simply shows you

outer reflection of your inner reality -

when free of diseases! Seeing it, you can

then, take steps to remove obscuring

diseases and your natural inner health

will then manifest on its own!

 

However, a disease when expressed... travels as

*germs* that have tendency to latch on

to any *vulnerable* host!

 

 

Diseases have tendencies and need to

spread...

 

Health simply is PRESENT everywhere in

each of us without having any need to

*reach*, spread or infect!

 

 

All that is required is the *cleaning*

of the obscuring external *germs*!

 

[NNB]

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

>

> --- Arvind <adithya_comming a écrit :

>

>

>

> [...]

>

> > The great popularity of the tabloid

> > press and the human's fascination with

> > the stories of celebrity breakups,

> > separations, scandals, infidelity,

> > fights, court cases, bankruptcies can

> > be seen as originating from that same

> > HIDDEN Wish!

> >

>

>

> Also the great drama that ensues in

> most intimate relationships - often not

> only over very insignificant and inconsequential

> matters but even over things that illogical,

> irrational or *impossible* can be seen

> to have its root in the same basic

> urge - the HIDDEN but overpowering urge

> to make others *like itself* i.e. Unhappy!

>

> In arrangements, where one partner is

> chronically unhappy, he/she assumes the

> active role to ensure that the unhappiness

> remains alive, grows and strengthens in

> the relationships! In the arrangements, where

> both partners have episodes of unhappiness,

> they work to strengthen and activate

> unhappiness in the other!

>

>

> It is no so much unlike an *infectious*

> *disease* and already infected are often

> [unconsciously] forced to infect others

> with it and thus keeping the cycle of pain

> alive and growing!

 

 

> ................................................

> joy likes company too.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming

wrote:

>

> You get infected with *diseases*...

>

> but, you NEVER get *infected* with

> HEALTH!!!

>

>

> That is because, health is your

> natural inner condition and is

> naturally present once external

> conditions of diseases are removed!

>

>

> You get attacked and infected by

> diseases because; these are external

> and foreign conditions! And, when

> infected your natural health

> becomes *obscured* by these

> external ailments!

>

>

> Health is not something that you *get*

> from *outside*... once the diseases are

> removed, the inner health manifest on

> its own!

>

>

>

> Peace, joy, love in similar way is

> your natural inner condition and

> is naturally present once the external

> entities like mental pain and noise is

> removed!

>

> Others can really *give* you

> diseases!!! But, no one can really

> *give* you health!

>

> Health is your natural inner condition.

> All others can do is *not give* you diseases

> and also show you the path to get rid of

> diseases that you already have!

>

>

> Joy when expressed simply shows you

> outer reflection of your inner reality -

> when free of diseases! Seeing it, you can

> then, take steps to remove obscuring

> diseases and your natural inner health

> will then manifest on its own!

>

> However, a disease when expressed... travels as

> *germs* that have tendency to latch on

> to any *vulnerable* host!

>

>

> Diseases have tendencies and need to

> spread...

>

> Health simply is PRESENT everywhere in

> each of us without having any need to

> *reach*, spread or infect!

>

>

> All that is required is the *cleaning*

> of the obscuring external *germs*!

>

> [NNB]

> Almost got infected with the Jeroen and L.E. germs once. And here

> all along I had assumed they were viruses.

.......bob (the near infected)

> wonder if that's better than an ear infection?(bn)

 

 

> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > --- Arvind <adithya_comming@> a écrit :

> >

> >

> >

> > [...]

> >

> > > The great popularity of the tabloid

> > > press and the human's fascination with

> > > the stories of celebrity breakups,

> > > separations, scandals, infidelity,

> > > fights, court cases, bankruptcies can

> > > be seen as originating from that same

> > > HIDDEN Wish!

> > >

> >

> >

> > Also the great drama that ensues in

> > most intimate relationships - often not

> > only over very insignificant and inconsequential

> > matters but even over things that illogical,

> > irrational or *impossible* can be seen

> > to have its root in the same basic

> > urge - the HIDDEN but overpowering urge

> > to make others *like itself* i.e. Unhappy!

> >

> > In arrangements, where one partner is

> > chronically unhappy, he/she assumes the

> > active role to ensure that the unhappiness

> > remains alive, grows and strengthens in

> > the relationships! In the arrangements, where

> > both partners have episodes of unhappiness,

> > they work to strengthen and activate

> > unhappiness in the other!

> >

> >

> > It is no so much unlike an *infectious*

> > *disease* and already infected are often

> > [unconsciously] forced to infect others

> > with it and thus keeping the cycle of pain

> > alive and growing!

>

>

> > ................................................

> > joy likes company too.

>

[Guest guest]

oh but one does!! joy IS contagious, we all now that.

Sometimes it takes one personn to step in a subdued

sleepy, crowded room and the all athmosphere

brightens up.

 

Patricia

--- Arvind <adithya_comming a écrit :

 

 

 

You get infected with *diseases*...

 

but, you NEVER get *infected* with

HEALTH!!!

 

 

That is because, health is your

natural inner condition and is

naturally present once external

conditions of diseases are removed!

 

 

You get attacked and infected by

diseases because; these are external

and foreign conditions! And, when

infected your natural health

becomes *obscured* by these

external ailments!

 

 

Health is not something that you *get*

from *outside*... once the diseases are

removed, the inner health manifest on

its own!

 

 

 

Peace, joy, love in similar way is

your natural inner condition and

is naturally present once the external

entities like mental pain and noise is

removed!

 

Others can really *give* you

diseases!!! But, no one can really

*give* you health!

 

Health is your natural inner condition.

All others can do is *not give* you diseases

and also show you the path to get rid of

diseases that you already have!

 

 

Joy when expressed simply shows you

outer reflection of your inner reality -

when free of diseases! Seeing it, you can

then, take steps to remove obscuring

diseases and your natural inner health

will then manifest on its own!

 

However, a disease when expressed... travels as

*germs* that have tendency to latch on

to any *vulnerable* host!

 

 

Diseases have tendencies and need to

spread...

 

Health simply is PRESENT everywhere in

each of us without having any need to

*reach*, spread or infect!

 

 

All that is required is the *cleaning*

of the obscuring external *germs*!

 

[NNB]

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia

<gdtige

wrote:

>

>

> --- Arvind <adithya_comming a écrit :

>

>

>

> [...]

>

> > The great popularity of the tabloid

> > press and the human's fascination with

> > the stories of celebrity breakups,

> > separations, scandals, infidelity,

> > fights, court cases, bankruptcies can

> > be seen as originating from that same

> > HIDDEN Wish!

> >

>

>

> Also the great drama that ensues in

> most intimate relationships - often not

> only over very insignificant and inconsequential

> matters but even over things that illogical,

> irrational or *impossible* can be seen

> to have its root in the same basic

> urge - the HIDDEN but overpowering urge

> to make others *like itself* i.e. Unhappy!

>

> In arrangements, where one partner is

> chronically unhappy, he/she assumes the

> active role to ensure that the unhappiness

> remains alive, grows and strengthens in

> the relationships! In the arrangements, where

> both partners have episodes of unhappiness,

> they work to strengthen and activate

> unhappiness in the other!

>

>

> It is no so much unlike an *infectious*

> *disease* and already infected are often

> [unconsciously] forced to infect others

> with it and thus keeping the cycle of pain

> alive and growing!

 

 

> ................................................

> joy likes company too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

> oh but one does!! joy IS contagious, we all now that.

> Sometimes it takes one personn to step in a subdued

> sleepy, crowded room and the all athmosphere

> brightens up.

 

Yes. That is true.

 

 

[...]

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

> oh but one does!! joy IS contagious, we all now that.

> Sometimes it takes one personn to step in a subdued

> sleepy, crowded room and the all athmosphere

> brightens up.

>

> Patricia

 

 

Joy is as contagious as AIDS.

 

Len

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:11:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:15:21 -0000

" Arvind " <adithya_comming

Re: You do not get *infected* with *health*, Patricia!

 

You get infected with *diseases*...

 

but, you NEVER get *infected* with

HEALTH!!!

 

 

That is because, health is your

natural inner condition and is

naturally present once external

conditions of diseases are removed!

 

 

You get attacked and infected by

diseases because; these are external

and foreign conditions! And, when

infected your natural health

becomes *obscured* by these

external ailments!

 

 

Health is not something that you *get*

from *outside*... once the diseases are

removed, the inner health manifest on

its own!

 

 

 

Peace, joy, love in similar way is

your natural inner condition and

is naturally present once the external

entities like mental pain and noise is

removed!

 

Others can really *give* you

diseases!!! But, no one can really

*give* you health!

 

Health is your natural inner condition.

All others can do is *not give* you diseases

and also show you the path to get rid of

diseases that you already have!

 

 

Joy when expressed simply shows you

outer reflection of your inner reality -

when free of diseases! Seeing it, you can

then, take steps to remove obscuring

diseases and your natural inner health

will then manifest on its own!

 

However, a disease when expressed... travels as

*germs* that have tendency to latch on

to any *vulnerable* host!

 

 

Diseases have tendencies and need to

spread...

 

Health simply is PRESENT everywhere in

each of us without having any need to

*reach*, spread or infect!

 

 

All that is required is the *cleaning*

of the obscuring external *germs*!

 

[NNB]

 

 

 

It seems to me there are no external conditions. Your comparisons of

physical and emotional well being are not just similar, they are identical

processes. This becomes more than just spiritual word games when we recognize

that all

conditions are manifested according to our focus of consciousness. One

creates one's own 'external infection' just as one creates one's own headache or

ulcer or unhappiness. The foundation of such creation is fear, and what is the

perceived need for defense and protection but fear?

 

You're not a victim of anyone else's reality, because there isn't anyone

else.

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@>

> wrote:

> >

> > oh but one does!! joy IS contagious, we all now that.

> > Sometimes it takes one personn to step in a subdued

> > sleepy, crowded room and the all athmosphere

> > brightens up.

> >

> > Patricia

>

>

> Joy is as contagious as AIDS.

>

> Len

 

 

Based on my information, AIDS is not

that contagious, Len!

 

It is extremely dangerous and can be

Fatal but, is not as contagious as it is

commonly believed.

 

First of all, it only spread through

extremely close contacts like sexual intercourse or

blood transfer and even thru sexual

intercourse with an infected person

chances of getting AIDS is only about

10%.

 

Further, it doesn't spread just by

being with someone infected or by

handshake, touch or kiss!