Limitations of Self The Trap

[Guest guest]

L.E: Sir, it is obvious that your jealousy and egoism are not completely

eradicated and your mind is not completely purified or you wouldn't be writing

or publishing this nonsense. You yoursefl are not free in mind or spirit, but

are a slave to an ideology.

You live in ignorance and serve your master as a fool and do not know it.

It is your misfortune to be so dominated by others. Too bad. Another being

trapped in self-righteousness and arrogance. Come and enjoy my art and music,

and forget this weirdness.

 

Larry Epston

www.epston.com

 

 

In a message dated 4/1/2006 6:23:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,

dattapr2000 writes:

 

> When the jealousy and egoism are completely eradicated and the mind is

> completely purified (Chitta Suddhi), Sankara says that such a student is

eligible

> for ‘Brahma Jnana Yoga’, which is university level. At this final stage

the

> student recognises and accepts the human form of Lord. The student worships

> the limited human form and also gets all his or her doubts clarified. This

> facility of living nature is not available in formless God or statue. But

> unless the egoism and jealousy are completely removed this final stage is not

at

> all possible. The student after doing P.G. course at University level goes to

> higher levels like Ph.D or post-doctoral level. In this last stage a student

> is fixed on the concept of monoism or advaita. In this stage the student

> believes that the human body of the Lord and the Lord are one and the same

like

> the electric wire and the electricity.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

L.E: This teaching has been going on for thousands of years, and what is the

result?

None! It is a futile teaching that does not help solve the problems of

living that just go on and on. It presents that same picture that if everyone

just

accepted this teaching the world would be cured of its hatred, disease and

violence, but it doesn't work and just adds to the conflict between ideologies

and hatefulness.

 

Larry Epston

 

 

In a message dated 4/1/2006 6:53:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,

dattapr2000 writes:

 

> Worshiping is to the Lord in human form called human incarnation or

> God-in-flesh not any X, Y or Z. This Lord has come in human form to uplift the

> humanity. He should be identified by His special divine knowledge preached by

Him.

> Service is to that human incarnation not to anybody else.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

When the jealousy and egoism are completely eradicated and the mind is

completely purified (Chitta Suddhi), Sankara says that such a student is

eligible for ‘Brahma Jnana Yoga’, which is university level. At this final stage

the student recognises and accepts the human form of Lord. The student worships

the limited human form and also gets all his or her doubts clarified. This

facility of living nature is not available in formless God or statue. But unless

the egoism and jealousy are completely removed this final stage is not at all

possible. The student after doing P.G. course at University level goes to higher

levels like Ph.D or post-doctoral level. In this last stage a student is fixed

on the concept of monoism or advaita. In this stage the student believes that

the human body of the Lord and the Lord are one and the same like the electric

wire and the electricity.

 

In this stage whatever the human incarnation says is Veda and whatever the

human incarnation does is Dharma. The student will not search Vedas or Dharma

Sastras to verify what the Lord said is in Veda or not or what the Lord did is

Dharma or not? Hanuman and Gopikas were students of such research level. Dharma

Raja was a P.G. Student only. When the Lord ordered him to tell a lie in the war

Dharma Raja verified the Lord’s word in Dharma Sastra and refused to tell the

lie.

 

at the lotus of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

Worshiping is to the Lord in human form called human incarnation or

God-in-flesh not any X, Y or Z. This Lord has come in human form to uplift the

humanity. He should be identified by His special divine knowledge preached by

Him. Service is to that human incarnation not to anybody else.

 

you care/serve for deprived, Love humanes, care for your next and when any

problem comes to you, go to them for solving your problem. So where you have put

efforts and money, there only you have to see for the results but not at a

different place. I mean do not approach Lord for your problems. Approach human

beings whom you have served. Also remember, when you are serving human beings,

who are equal to you, there also it internally means you are servant to them.

Where as Lord in human form preaches special divine knowledge and does miracles

also to protect devotees. Normal human beings cannot do anything. Lord only has

to uplift you but not the humanity. You do not have any ego problem to serve

such humanity but you do not want to serve Lord in human form who can only

really uplift you.

 

Lord in any human form (Jesus, Krishna, Adi sankara, Prophet mohammed etc..)

did not ask you to do the social service.

 

at the lotus of shri datta swami

surya

 

epston wrote:

This is the kind of teaching that enslaves the life of humans. It is

unfortunate that such a sophisticated snare exists although there are many other

ideologies and philosophical systems that do the same thing. Notice the

competiveness and one-upsmanship that permeates this message, and the carrots

held before your nose.It's worse that Christianity that seems simple and

primative by comparison except for Catholic doctrine that rivals this absurdity

in its complexity.

 

Larry Epston

www.epston.com

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Worshiping is to the Lord in human form called human incarnation or God-in-flesh

not any X, Y or Z. This Lord has come in human form to uplift the humanity. He

should be identified by His special divine knowledge preached by Him. Service is

to that human incarnation not to anybody else.

 

you care/serve for deprived, Love humanes, care for your next and when any

problem comes to you, go to them for solving your problem. So where you have put

efforts and money, there only you have to see for the results but not at a

different place. I mean do not approach Lord for your problems. Approach human

beings whom you have served. Also remember, when you are serving human beings,

who are equal to you, there also it internally means you are servant to them.

Where as Lord in human form preaches special divine knowledge and does miracles

also to protect devotees. Normal human beings cannot do anything. Lord only has

to uplift you but not the humanity. You do not have any ego problem to serve

such humanity but you do not want to serve Lord in human form who can only

really uplift you.

 

Lord in any human form (Jesus, Krishna, Adi sankara, Prophet mohammed etc..)

did not ask you to do the social service.

 

at the lotus of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

epston wrote:

L.E: Sir, it is obvious that your jealousy and egoism are not completely

eradicated and your mind is not completely purified or you wouldn't be writing

or publishing this nonsense. You yoursefl are not free in mind or spirit, but

re a slave to an ideology.

You live in ignorance and serve your master as a fool and do not know it.It is

your misfortune to be so dominated by others. Too bad. Another being trapped

in self-righteousness and arrogance. Come and enjoy my art and music, and

forget this weirdness.

 

Larry Epston

 

 

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[Guest guest]

MATTHEW 7 : 13 AND 14

 

 

“Enter by the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that

leads to destruction and there are many who go in by it”.

 

 

Bhagavathgita says “Manushyaanam Sahasreshu…..” which means that millions of

people will try to reach God but only one can reach God. This means that the

spiritual path is narrow with one or two devotees only who can reach God. So you

should not follow the majority as example in spiritual path. Majority goes to

Hell. Will you also go to hell?

 

Diamonds are in minority and gravel stones are in majority. In worldly matters

you can follow the majority. But in spiritual line there is only one Jesus one

Buddha one Sankara etc., If you are in the association of majority you will be

polluted by them since they induce the worldly poison through their

conversations (Luke 13: 20 & 21). If you are in the association of the Satguru

you will be spiritually strengthened by His gospel.

 

at the lotus of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

epston wrote:

L.E: This teaching has been going on for thousands of years, and what is the

result? None! It is a futile teaching that does not help solve the problems of

Larry Epston

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> L.E: This teaching has been going on for thousands of years, and

what is the

> result?

> None! It is a futile teaching that does not help solve the

problems of

> living that just go on and on. It presents that same picture that

if everyone just

> accepted this teaching the world would be cured of its hatred,

disease and

> violence, but it doesn't work and just adds to the conflict between

ideologies

> and hatefulness.

>

> Larry Epston

>

> Yep..This teaching has been with us for thousands of years..all

those billions of deluded people! Now Larry Epston has come to earth,

and in his down in the gutter style, with absolutely no ability to

spell a friggin' word beyond 4 letters correctly, and with his

ability to see how all the past men of wisdom and science and

philosophy and geopolitcal contribution were WRONG, and were not up

to his standards of psychotic belief and delusions of grandeur.. will

correct and save mankind from all it'd errors. The keepers of Larry

obviously let him out too early and forgot to provide him with his

medicine.

....Bob Nixon

[Guest guest]

When one joins school/college, in the beginning the student will be informed

that one has to score a minimum of 50% to pass and get the degree. That is the

truth and cannot be called as threatening. This is a caution to the student and

will be useful for him to be attentive and put effort throughout the year. This

is beneficial to the student only and not to the college authorities.

 

after the concept of hell & heaven whatever was written by you is right

interpretation. Lord is giving equal to opportunity to all but because of

worldly attractions, nobody wants to heed the word of Lord. without following

you cannot experience it.

 

Hanuman, a topmost devotee identified Lord Rama and served Him and always said

‘I am servant to Lord Rama’. He even performed many miracles also and still he

has given credit of them to Rama only. (Dasoham kosalendrasya.....) For such

worship, Lord has given future creator post to Hanuman.

 

St. Peter, St. John, St. Luke... identified Lord Jesus by His divine knowledge

and participated in the propagation of divine knowledge. Gopikas identified and

worshipped Lord Krishna, the then human incarnation only and got the highest

fruit of top most Goloka.

 

Swami Vivekananda participated in the mission of propagation of divine

knowledge on the order of the then human incarnation Rama Krishna Paramahamsa.

 

Likewise the disciples of Adi Sankara worshipped Him as lord and latter on

participated in the propagation of divine knowledge. Meerabai also propagated

Krishna Bhakti by composing hymns and propagated them.

 

In all these the disciples identified the Lord in the human form during their

time and participated in His mission as servants. So, first one should identify

the Satguru and then learn divine knowledge from Him. These disciples worshipped

their Satguru. At His order, they participated in the propagation of divine

knowledge as Service to Lord. Service only proves our real devotion, which

consists of Karma phala tyaga (sacrifice of money) & karma sanyasa (physically

participating in His mission).

 

at the lotus of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

epston wrote:

L.E: Just consider the foolishness of this statement; “Enter by the narrow

gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way. " The gate is both narrow and

wide at the same time. Ridiculous! Or, perhaps there are two gates, one narrow

and one broad, but whether broad or narrow, both gates lead from the outside

to the inside, so you get in whether you enter by the narrow or broad gate. So

where do these gates lead? One to heaven and one to hell if implied. So here

is the threat, the curse that is cast upon you by the ones who slaver and foam

at the mouth to save you. Those who will have the power to control you. Always

the same, the priests and their slaves who feast on the sacrifices of the

ignorant. Terrible odds. Out of millions of those who try only one succeeds.

And this doesn't even count those who do not try, additional millions. What a

cruel and unkind god would oversee such a terrible and cruel scenario. Even

those who try will be sent to their doom. And how about you dattapr, where will

you go? Are you so confident that your " trying " will not end up in hell with the

millions of others? Such arrogance and ignorance. Traps for the

weak and unwary, to become a slave to this system and others like it.

Larry Epston

 

 

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