Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:11:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 02:20:34 -0000 " Arvind " <cptc Suffering and Joy : Osho. >>Beloved Osho, >>One line from Dostoevsky's work has impressed me much in my childhood. He says, " In suffering look for happiness. " I used to think that nothing of value could be attained without sacrifice and hard work. After meeting you and drinking your message of love, life, enjoyment and celebration, I realize that my previous idea was quite masochistic and suicidal. Could you please shed some light on this? ivan Mada, Fyodor Dostoevsky is a very special case - he was a genius. If one has to decide on ten great novels in all the languages of the world, he will have to choose at least three novels of Dostoevsky in the ten. His insight into human beings and their problems is greater than your so- called psychoanalysts, and there are moments when he reaches the heights of great mystics. But he is a sick soul; he himself is a psychological case. You are saying, " One line from Dostoevsky has impressed me much in my childhood. He says, 'In suffering look for happiness.' " That statement will appeal to many people because many are suffering and one can tolerate suffering only if one goes on looking for happiness; if not today then tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow. Suffering can be tolerated only through hope. Then one can suffer his whole life, just looking for happiness. Your being impressed by the statement is dangerous. One should not look for happiness; one should look for the causes of suffering, because that is the way to come out of suffering. And the moment you are out of suffering there is happiness. Happiness is not something that you have to wait for. You can wait for infinity and happiness will not come to you, unless you destroy the causes of suffering. I will not agree with the statement. I will say, " In suffering, look for the causes of suffering. " Don't waste your time about happiness; it is none of your business. You are suffering; suffering is your state. Look what is causing it - jealousy, anger, inferiority complex - what is causing it? And the miracle is: if you can go into your suffering as a meditation, watching, to the deepest roots of it, just through watching it disappears. You don't have to do anything more than watching. If you have found the authentic cause by your watching, the suffering will disappear; and if it is not disappearing, that means you are not watching deep enough. So it is a very simple process and with a criterion: if your watching is deep enough... just the way you pull out a plant to look at its roots, it dies, because the roots outside the earth cannot survive. In the light is their death. Suffering can exist only if its roots remain in the unconscious of your being. If you go deep down searching and looking for the roots , the moment you become conscious of the roots of suffering, suffering disappears. The disappearance of suffering is what you call happiness. Happiness has not to be found somewhere else; it was always with you but the cloud of suffering was covering it. Happiness is our nature. To say it in other words: for suffering you have to make much effort, for happiness you don't have to make any effort. Just stop making the effort to create suffering. " I used to think that nothing of value could be attained without sacrifice and hard work. " That is the disease Christianity has been spreading all over the world. In fact, everything of authentic value is achieved by relaxation, by silence, by joy. ~Osho, from The Golden Future Perhaps Osho was feeling argumentative that day? " In suffering look for happiness. " Dostoevsky You don't have to do anything more than watching. Osho These two statements mean the same thing. He describes the same process that is not a process. Ultimately, suffering is released; surrendered. The likelihood of this occurring grows in proportion to suffering, because we don't like to suffer. There is no " cause " to suffering that needs to be discovered. If it is " anger " , where has this come from? Is there an anger germ that accidentally got inhaled and can be discovered and removed? Anger is of our own making. If we make it, it is not truly hidden from us, is it? If we do not see it, it is we who pretend to not see it, and so what is it that is being discovered but that which we ourselves have hidden from ourselves? What sort of childish game is this? One is unhappy because one chooses to be unhappy. The anger is enjoyed. The anger is known to be the 'cause' of the unhappiness, and yet it is not released, but rather justified on grounds of moral superiority and waved as a flag of victimhood in order to garner attention and create drama and justify one's perceived errors and imperfections. Nobody sees any of this until they wish to see it. They hide it from themselves until they are ready. The biggest myth about human nature is that there is anything at all to understand beyond the realization that we are devious, conniving liars who will do anything to get what we want. The only question to be asked is, are you ready to be happy, or do you want to suffer a little more first? That's all. Nothing was ever hidden. You....cannot....lie...to...yourself. The absurdity of that is obvious, is it not? Why are you not enlightened? Same reason; because you are not ready; you have not chosen it. The moment you choose it, it is done. It really is that simple. 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