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In a message dated 4/2/2006 10:38:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

adithya_comming writes:

 

>

> and, as Ramana repeatedly taught:

>

> 'Strenght Of Mind' is indeed a great

> thing and need be practiced as long

> as necessary!

>

> Developing Strenght Of Mind [even if when

> it is called by some other name] has been part

> of every teaching that has tried to integrate

> spirituality into day to day life!

>

 

L.E: There is no such thing as " strength of mind. " What other names do you

choose to use? Mind is not a muscle that can be exercised. It is more like a

reservoir, or location or space produced by the brain. By

bio-chemical-electrical means it both hold images and experiences and thinks,

figures, calculates,

plans, sub-consciously, and has its own dimensions of intelligence just as do

the cells and organs and other aspects of the body. In dreams, the mind

operations are somewhat accessible to conscious ego awareness, but the ego

cannot

make sense of dreams because dreams as they occur in mind are creating the ego

or sense of self. Brain is like a CD, an operating organ but mind is like the

music that arises from the disk, yet is not the disk itself. Mind and its

outward expression ego or self are dependent on the brain and have no indendent

existence. Like the sound or music on a CD has no independent existence, but

arise from the structure of the disk.

Again, mind cannot be strengthened or even easly accessed from the ego self

state.

But mind can be accessed by an external source. A hypnotist can access

someone's mind to an unknown extent. Through relaxation and suggestion, the

hypnotist as an external force, can relate directly to the mind level of the

individual. They can find sub-conscious memories and even operate the body from

the

level of mind. How far or to what extent a hynotist can affect the internal

workings of a human's life is unknown, but it seems to be useful to break the

hold of addictions and bad habits like finger-nail chewing, which is like

self-devouring.

The individual can learn to follow ethical rules, meditate, abstain from meat

and alcohol and change many other behaviors, but that is not due to

strengthening the mind, that is a matter of choice, persistence and effort.

 

Larry Epston

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/2/2006 10:38:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> adithya_comming writes:

>

> >

> > and, as Ramana repeatedly taught:

> >

> > 'Strenght Of Mind' is indeed a great

> > thing and need be practiced as long

> > as necessary!

> >

> > Developing Strenght Of Mind [even if when

> > it is called by some other name] has been part

> > of every teaching that has tried to integrate

> > spirituality into day to day life!

> >

>

> L.E: There is no such thing as " strength of mind. " What other

names do you

> choose to use? Mind is not a muscle that can be exercised. It is

more like a

> reservoir, or location or space produced by the brain. By

> bio-chemical-electrical means it both hold images and experiences

and thinks, figures, calculates,

> plans, sub-consciously, and has its own dimensions of intelligence

just as do

> the cells and organs and other aspects of the body. In dreams, the

mind

> operations are somewhat accessible to conscious ego awareness, but

the ego cannot

> make sense of dreams because dreams as they occur in mind are

creating the ego

> or sense of self. Brain is like a CD, an operating organ but mind

is like the

> music that arises from the disk, yet is not the disk itself. Mind

and its

> outward expression ego or self are dependent on the brain and have

no indendent

> existence. Like the sound or music on a CD has no independent

existence, but

> arise from the structure of the disk.

> Again, mind cannot be strengthened or even easly accessed from the

ego self

> state.

> But mind can be accessed by an external source. A hypnotist can

access

> someone's mind to an unknown extent. Through relaxation and

suggestion, the

> hypnotist as an external force, can relate directly to the mind

level of the

> individual. They can find sub-conscious memories and even operate

the body from the

> level of mind. How far or to what extent a hynotist can affect the

internal

> workings of a human's life is unknown, but it seems to be useful to

break the

> hold of addictions and bad habits like finger-nail chewing, which

is like

> self-devouring.

> The individual can learn to follow ethical rules, meditate, abstain

from meat

> and alcohol and change many other behaviors, but that is not due to

> strengthening the mind, that is a matter of choice, persistence and

effort.

>

> Larry Epston

>

> " There is no such thing as 'strength of mind'. " ..This one you've

got absolutely right on the money Larry.. for yourself. In your case

you lack the needed component for which this phrase refers to when

defining it as possesing strenth.Mindless though your position is, it

all falls into place when one realizes that you dont have a mind to

be less about......Love and Puke..bob

 

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